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dascal

English translation: Parochial schoolmaster; parish schoolmaster

15:47 Apr 12, 2002
Romanian to English translations [Non-PRO]
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Romanian term or phrase: dascal
am avut 6 fete,dintre care cea mai mare,pe care ma gandeam s-o marit dupa ginere-meu,dupa ce va fi iesit dascal,s-a maritat cu dascalulu din Strantea
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English translation:Parochial schoolmaster; parish schoolmaster
Explanation:
Şcoala bisericii se cheamă "parish school" sau "parochial school" şi dascălul este "parish schoolmaster" sau "parochial schoolmaster". Dealtfel, acest nume sugerează o şcoală veche sau de pe vremuri pentru acelaşi motiv ca şi în limba română (că aşa erau şcolile pe vremuri, cu toate că unele mai exită şi acum). "Parochial" este mai arhaic decât "parish".

http://www.ffhsoc.freeserve.co.uk/newburnstats.htm
In 1659, John Wood, Esq. of Orkie, destined that property for erecting a free grammar-school in this parish, and maintaining several poor scholars. The parochial schoolmaster educates and maintains these poor boys, a liberal allowance being given him for that purpose by the patrons of Wood's Institution.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/BEW/Eyemouth/
An advert in The Scotsman newspaper of 4th April 1849 gives some insight into the parish school in Eyemouth. A parochial schoolmaster was required, someone "qualified to Teach the usual Branches of Education, including Latin and Navigation".
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5 +3Parochial schoolmaster; parish schoolmaster
Fred Dichson (X)
5 +1teacher/scholar/master
Elvira Stoianov
4 +1Primary teacher/primary school teacher
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
teacher/scholar/master


Explanation:
sunt variantele date de dictionar
nu cred ca engleza are vreun cuvant care sa fie similar lui dascal (adica sa aiba o usoara nota arhaica)

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Note added at 2002-04-12 15:57:01 (GMT)
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totusi master este ceea ce s-ar potrivi
Longman defineste master ca : (BrE old-fashioned) a male teacher, see also headmaster

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Note added at 2002-04-12 15:57:35 (GMT)
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(ex. din Longman este \"the maths master\")


    Dict r-e Levitchi
Elvira Stoianov
Luxembourg
Local time: 08:40
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian, Native in HungarianHungarian
PRO pts in pair: 339

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  corin: Cred (dar nu sint sigur!) ca aici e vorba mai curind de dascal in sensul folosit de biserica ortodoxa. daca e asa, nestiind care sint atributiile unui dacsal si care e pozitia lui in ierarhia bisericeasca, nu sint sigur care ar fi echivalentul in engleza.
7 mins
  -> in dictionar pentru dascal (de biserica) se specifica (psalm) reader. Eu totusi cred ca school master ar fi exact potrivit, pentru ca l-am mai auzit in aceasta conexiune
agree  Ionut Sandu: Pentru "dascal" in sensul de "profesor" "schoolmaster" e OK. Pentru dascal de biserica e preferabil "cantor".
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Primary teacher/primary school teacher


Explanation:
Cuvantul "dascal" din grecescul "dascalos" = invatator. Apropierea de biserica se face prin faptul ca pana la reforma invatamantului facuta de Alexandru Ioan Cuza in 1850, scoala primara era atasata bisericii (vezi "Amintiri din Copilarie" de Ion Creanga).
Cum in Anglia situatia nu a fost aceasi cu cea din Romania, nu exista un cuvant potrivit pentru a reda nuanta arhaica.
Cred ca pentru a evita orice confuzie, trebuie folosit termenul "primary teacher" folosit in zilele noastre de englezul de rand.
"scholar" si "master" fac parte din repertoriul cultural de influenta antica (vezi piesele lui Shakespeare), deci cred ca nu ar fi potrivit in contextul de fata.

Red Cat Studios
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:40
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in RomanianRomanian
PRO pts in pair: 32

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agree  Codrut Tudor
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1 day 16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Parochial schoolmaster; parish schoolmaster


Explanation:
Şcoala bisericii se cheamă "parish school" sau "parochial school" şi dascălul este "parish schoolmaster" sau "parochial schoolmaster". Dealtfel, acest nume sugerează o şcoală veche sau de pe vremuri pentru acelaşi motiv ca şi în limba română (că aşa erau şcolile pe vremuri, cu toate că unele mai exită şi acum). "Parochial" este mai arhaic decât "parish".

http://www.ffhsoc.freeserve.co.uk/newburnstats.htm
In 1659, John Wood, Esq. of Orkie, destined that property for erecting a free grammar-school in this parish, and maintaining several poor scholars. The parochial schoolmaster educates and maintains these poor boys, a liberal allowance being given him for that purpose by the patrons of Wood's Institution.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/BEW/Eyemouth/
An advert in The Scotsman newspaper of 4th April 1849 gives some insight into the parish school in Eyemouth. A parochial schoolmaster was required, someone "qualified to Teach the usual Branches of Education, including Latin and Navigation".


    Reference: http://www.ffhsoc.freeserve.co.uk/newburnstats.htm
    Reference: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/BEW/Eyemouth/
Fred Dichson (X)
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agree  Andrei Albu
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agree  Julia Bogdan Rollo (X)
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agree  Simon Charass
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