counterfactual

Swedish translation: den kontrafaktiska situationen

14:29 Jun 2, 2010
English to Swedish translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / Seminar about third world aid
English term or phrase: counterfactual
Context:

And the GDP in Africa is not making much progress.

Okay, fine. How do you know what would have happened without the aid?

Maybe it would have been much worse.

Or maybe it would have been better.

We have know idea. We don't know what the
**counterfactual** is. There's only one Africa.
Anders Dalström
Sweden
Local time: 05:51
Swedish translation:den kontrafaktiska situationen
Explanation:
"The counterfactual" does not refer to an alternative to aid, but to the _situation_ that would have been in Africa if aid had not been given ("what would have happened without the aid?").

We don't know what the counterfactual is.
Vi vet inte vad den kontrafaktiska situationen skulle ha varit.

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2010-06-03 23:53:41 GMT)
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Och det handlar inte om villkorssatser heller, utan om en situation.
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Thomas Johansson
Peru
Local time: 22:51
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1kontrafaktiskt
Thomas Loob
3 +1alternativet
Bo Soderholm
4alternativet
Helen Hedman Walderhaug
4den kontrafaktiska situationen
Thomas Johansson


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
kontrafaktiskt


Explanation:
Kontrafaktisk villkorssats: Om Hitler hade vunnit 2:a världskriget, så...

Thomas Loob
Estonia
Local time: 05:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish

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agree  Mario Marcolin
4 days
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
alternativet


Explanation:
Det enkla är det simpla: "..vi vet inte vad alternativet är..."

Example sentence(s):
  • "..vi vet inte vad alternativet är..."
Bo Soderholm
Local time: 05:51
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish

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agree  Anna Herbst: Jag kan inte komma på ett bättre alternativ...
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the counterfactual
alternativet


Explanation:
Håller med både Thomas och Bo. Men "the counterfactual" passar bättre på engelska i sammanhanget. "Alternativet" skulle kanske kunna tolka som ett givarländernas alternativ till bistånd - kanske långsökt? Föreslår en översättning som "Vi vet inte hur det hade varit utan bistånd".



Example sentence(s):
  • We don't know what the counterfactual is.
Helen Hedman Walderhaug
Sweden
Local time: 05:51
Native speaker of: Swedish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Thomas Johansson: Jag tror att denna omskrivning skulle vara bra i många fall, men just här handlar det specifikt om en akademisk-filosofisk diskussion, och där är ordet "kontrafaktisk" oftast ett viktigt nyckelbegrepp.
5 days
  -> Tack för kommentaren Thomas! Det måste nog vara nyckelbegreppet här!
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1 day 9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the counterfactual
den kontrafaktiska situationen


Explanation:
"The counterfactual" does not refer to an alternative to aid, but to the _situation_ that would have been in Africa if aid had not been given ("what would have happened without the aid?").

We don't know what the counterfactual is.
Vi vet inte vad den kontrafaktiska situationen skulle ha varit.

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2010-06-03 23:53:41 GMT)
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Och det handlar inte om villkorssatser heller, utan om en situation.

Thomas Johansson
Peru
Local time: 22:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Swedish
PRO pts in category: 4
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