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English translation: critical paths

05:36 Sep 3, 2021
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Management
French term or phrase: hippodromes
Hello everyone,
I think this is going not goint to be too tricky since the context is confidential, I hope I can explain enough to be clear.
This is from a document providing instructions on how to write the minutes of a review and what to put in it. The review is held at a certain stage of the construction of a ship, and consists in going through a list of requirements and checking whether they have been completed and whether their non-completion is blocking for the following phases.

"Les principes de déclinaison/allocation des exigences transverses ont-ils été présentés lors de la revue et jugés adaptés aux objectifs coût/ délais/ risques du programme?
Le principe de déclinaison des exigences transverses est inclus dans le dossier XXX.
Les hippodromes ayant eu lieu en revue X et revue Y ont permis de converger sur la prise en compte des besoins client et des objectifs du programme.
Les dotations de coûts pour mener les travaux demandés sont abordées au chapitre X."

If you need more information I can try to put in more extracts, although this is the only occurrence of the word in the document.
I hope I managed to explain this right.
Thank you
jessjess
Local time: 07:58
English translation:critical paths
Explanation:
Sorry if this repeats but my original submittal disappeared.

Without context, I infer hippodrome is the equivalent of what US project planners and engineers on complex projects (e.g., in my experience, refueling a nuclear power plant) call a critical path. Its's not a specialized or uncommon term.

A task is identified as lying on the path if it must be completed before another can begin. On a complex project, charting the crritical paths facilitates determination of assignments and subsidiary deadlines, ensuring progress as steady as at the hippodrome. The chart acts like a racetrack, but it needn't be oval and there needn't be a race (cf., Circus Maximus.)

https://hbr.org/1963/09/the-abcs-of-the-critical-path-method

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mrrafe
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Local time: 01:58
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Summary of answers provided
3(project) progress trackers
AllegroTrans
3critical paths
mrrafe
3meeting / joint assessment / exchange of views /
Daryo
3(athletics track-shaped) project stage completion charts
Conor McAuley
Summary of reference entries provided
see
liz askew

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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(project) progress trackers


Explanation:
This could work as it retains the notion of a track, albeit without the gee gees

In project management, a progress tracker refers to a real-time visual representation of the status of a project. Your managers and team members will instantly know the status of different tasks and where most attention is needed. ... A visual timeline or Gantt chart that highlights the progress of a project.24 Dec 2020

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:58
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mpoma: plausible enough
27 mins
  -> thank you

disagree  Daryo: fits maybe with the image of "un hippodrome" but makes no sense in this sentence.// replace "hippodromes" with "timeline" or "chart" and explain how it could possible fit in with whole sentence - nothing "extraordinary" in that method of checking ...
1 day 8 hrs
  -> Extraordinary diasagree since you yourself have posted only with CL3 and have also suggested it could be an error or even a joke. Time to take off the tape permanently sticking down your disagree button.
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
critical paths


Explanation:
Sorry if this repeats but my original submittal disappeared.

Without context, I infer hippodrome is the equivalent of what US project planners and engineers on complex projects (e.g., in my experience, refueling a nuclear power plant) call a critical path. Its's not a specialized or uncommon term.

A task is identified as lying on the path if it must be completed before another can begin. On a complex project, charting the crritical paths facilitates determination of assignments and subsidiary deadlines, ensuring progress as steady as at the hippodrome. The chart acts like a racetrack, but it needn't be oval and there needn't be a race (cf., Circus Maximus.)

https://hbr.org/1963/09/the-abcs-of-the-critical-path-method



mrrafe
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1 day 20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
hippodrome
meeting / joint assessment / exchange of views /


Explanation:
One method that usually works well: just take out the offending word, chuck in the bin (or even better in the shredder) and look at what could fill the gap. (context first?)

Les "XXX" ayant eu lieu en revue X et revue Y ont permis de converger sur la prise en compte des besoins client et des objectifs du programme.

ayant eu lieu
=> "XXX" is s.t. that "happened", some kind of "event" at a given point in time

ayant eu lieu en revue X et revue Y >
=> "XXX" was s.t. (some kind of "event") that happened during (/ has been part of) the process of "reviewing the stage of advancement of the project" at the stages X and Y

ont permis de converger sur la prise en compte des besoins client et des objectifs du programme.
=> this "event XXX" allowed at least two people to "converge" (agree a common position?) about ways to take into account "client's needs" and "the programme aims"; you would expect that at least the client was present (who else would better know "client's needs"), and obviously the shipbuilder.

Short version of it: as this "hippodrome" is a punctual event (a meeting) between at least the shipbuilder and the client, it CAN NOT be any kind of "roadmap" nor "chart", as a "roadmap" / "chart" (or ANY variation of the same) would cover the whole timeline of the project.

Can't see what else could fit into this sentence.


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If one single word doesn't fit into the sentence, 99.99% of the time the sentence is right and the word is wrong.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:58
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 6
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: You could be right but you have made alot of presumption
20 hrs
  -> When it's based on what's around the term where it's been used AFAIK it's called "deductive reasoning", and as far as I'm aware there is no prohibition on using it as one of the tools when translating. "Internal coherence of a text" doesn't matter?
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(athletics track-shaped) project stage completion charts


Explanation:
Or

(athletics track-shaped) project stage management charts


Might also help your thought process:

https://www.projectmanager.com/blog/3-best-project-managemen...

"Gantt charts, PERT charts, CPM diagrams and WBS diagrams..."



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To jessjess: you're welcome...the customer is always [censored]!

Conor McAuley
France
Local time: 07:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you very much!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mpoma: Haha, why not? For the kind of project where the end "milestone" is exactly the same as the start one!
4 mins
  -> I think the concept is more of a loop that you go round, complete, and then return to the main project. See project diagrams online.

neutral  AllegroTrans: Mmmm... could be a straight sprint track
24 mins
  -> "Our survey said..."!

neutral  Daryo: Un projet qui tourne en rond? Au lieu d’être supposé progresser en ligne droite depuis le début jusqu’à la fin? Une nouvelle méthode pour planifier et mener des projets? Idée très intéressante!
1 day 11 hrs
  -> Same remark as to Mpoma. Look up the project diagrams online.
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: see

Reference information:
https://sailing-stream.fr/premiere-construction-de-bateau-im...

Le bateau est construit pour s’adapter à l’hippodrome unique de The Ocean Race avec jusqu’à 10 escales (y compris deux traversées d’équateur supplémentaires avec une étape vers l’Asie), ce qui comprend des angles de navigation plus au près et plus serrés. De plus, il a été conçu pour répondre aux règles strictes incorporant un équipage de cinq (quatre hommes, une femme) et un rapporteur embarqué (OBR), et un pilote automatique de cap uniquement. Le nouveau 11th Hour Racing Team IMOCA 60 sera le premier du genre dans la catégorie.

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Could =

route


The Ocean Race 2021-22 route is announcedhttps://www.theoceanrace.com › news › 12399_The-Oc...
12 Mar 2020 — “This route is more compact at 38,000 nautical miles and with two less ... best sailors in one of the most challenging races in the sport.

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The Ocean Race - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › The_Ocean_Race
The route — The 2017–18 race covered 45,000 nautical miles, which is the longest route in its history. The yachts[edit]. Early races had a very wide range ...



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races

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Note to reference poster
Asker: Hi Liz thank you for your answer, as I wrote to Phil, you are right it seems like a good image in this context, I might use just "track" or "route" is also a good idea! Have a nice day!

Asker: Thank you very much!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
disagree  Daryo: can't be that in this text - whichever way you look at it, it won't fit - the "hippodrome" in this ST is some kind of meeting between the shipbuilder and the client.
1 day 17 hrs
agree  philgoddard: I think it's rude to disagree with reference comments that are potentially helpful.
2 days 23 hrs
  -> Well, some people are like that:) Thanks for the support, I thought I was spot on!
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