Dec 10, 2007 17:02
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Persönlichkeitsrechte
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Law (general)
Hello again,
More from the marketing research document:
"Trotzdem haben in den meisten Ländern auch die Verbände der Marketing Researchsinstitute Regeln für den angemessenen Umgang mit den Persönlichkeitsrechten der Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer ans solchen Studien verabschiedet."
My question is - is this simply "personal rights"? I have (just about) rejected the Wikipedia translations "personality rights" and "publicity rights" as these seem too narrow. The client has provided the following -
"es geht um Datenschutz und Anonymität und darum, dass durch Marktforschung niemandem ein Schaden zugefügt werden soll."
Would "personal rights" be appropriate here? Privacy rights? Rights to privacy?
Thanks a lot!
Hilary.
More from the marketing research document:
"Trotzdem haben in den meisten Ländern auch die Verbände der Marketing Researchsinstitute Regeln für den angemessenen Umgang mit den Persönlichkeitsrechten der Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer ans solchen Studien verabschiedet."
My question is - is this simply "personal rights"? I have (just about) rejected the Wikipedia translations "personality rights" and "publicity rights" as these seem too narrow. The client has provided the following -
"es geht um Datenschutz und Anonymität und darum, dass durch Marktforschung niemandem ein Schaden zugefügt werden soll."
Would "personal rights" be appropriate here? Privacy rights? Rights to privacy?
Thanks a lot!
Hilary.
Proposed translations
(English)
Change log
Dec 10, 2007 20:20: Johanna Timm, PhD changed "Term asked" from "Persönlichkeitsrechten" to "Persönlichkeitsrechte"
Sep 26, 2008 12:24: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "Marketing / Market Research" to "Law (general)"
Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
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individual rights
I think, in this context we have to go for the more comprehensive term, including all the suggested ones.
Peer comment(s):
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Francis Lee (X)
: incl. right of assembly, freedom of speech etc.?
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I'm still not sure about this one - will post the client feedback in the Notes section - but this is what I went with in the end, as it seemed the "broadest". Thanks very much for all your help!"
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Daniela Gieseler-Higgs
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German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
privacy rights/law
Ich glaube, mit privacy koenntest Du richtig liegen.
+1
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Paul Cohen
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German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
data protection rights
Here's another possibility: data protection rights
"Guide to your data protection rights. The Data Protection Act 1998 gives rights to (...) customers about how your personal information is obtained..."
http://services.bgfl.org/services/datapro2/rights.htm
"Guide to your data protection rights. The Data Protection Act 1998 gives rights to (...) customers about how your personal information is obtained..."
http://services.bgfl.org/services/datapro2/rights.htm
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
: This is actually the term generally used in market research (I should know - I've been involved in that business for nearly 30 years).
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Just as I suspected... Thanks for that confirmation, Brigitte! ;-)
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German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
(rights of/to) privacy
"privacy" is certainly the keyword here IMO.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatsphäre
Das besondere Persönlichkeitsrecht dient dem Schutz eines abgeschirmten Bereichs persönlicher Entfaltung.
- "respect" or "in connection with" ....
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatsphäre
Das besondere Persönlichkeitsrecht dient dem Schutz eines abgeschirmten Bereichs persönlicher Entfaltung.
- "respect" or "in connection with" ....
1 hr
German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
personal non-property rights
This seems to be a little narrow than just personal rights.
+1
2 hrs
German term (edited):
Persönlichkeitsrechten
ethical standards
The definition provided by your client is broad, and everyone who has suggested terms relating to privacy and data protection has overlooked the fact that these Persönlichkeitsrechte also include "dass durch Marktforschung niemandem ein Schaden zugefügt werden soll" - which would come under the heading of ethics in English - so I wonder if you want to consider working this term in somewhere.
Note from asker:
| Armorel, you are exactly right about the wider implications of the term - I hadn't realised it before, but it DOES tie-in with a previous section on ethics and using humans as uninformed guineapigs. |
Peer comment(s):
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Paul Cohen
: I think this idea is already included in the notion of "data protection rights," which were introduced to protect individuals from being harmed by unscrupulous (and unethical) entrepreneurs and companies (including senders of SPAM, *sigh*).
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No, I mean ethics (and "Schaden") in the much wider sense (as used in psychology etc.) that what is done with people shouldn't be physically or emotionally distressing or harmful - nothing at all to do with data protection
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Bernhard Sulzer
: I agree with the term - it's more than/different from legal protection; this is ethical conduct that should be applied to any individual anywhere.
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16 hrs
privacy protection
...noch 'ne Variante...
1 day 7 hrs
Bernhard Sulzer
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(all applicable) protective rights due to any individual
or:
according to the ethics of social conduct
according to the ethical code of conduct
according to the rights of the (an) individual
It definitely goes in the direction Armorel is suggesting.
These are rights not guaranteed by any government but rules/ethics of social conduct/moral rights. I think rights of the individual comes very close as well. So my suggestion is somewhat following Armorel's and Tilman's.
how about:
Trotzdem haben in den meisten Ländern auch die Verbände der Marketing Researchsinstitute Regeln für den angemessenen Umgang mit den Persönlichkeitsrechten der Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer ans solchen Studien verabschiedet."
However (nevertheless), the associations of market research institutes have adopted rules (provisions) to make sure all participants are treated according to the protective rights due to any individual
http://isrc.payap.ac.th/document/papers/paper16.pdf
protective rights of the individual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_rights
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?ci...
No one can read these two great opinions, and the opinions in the Pacific Ry. Comm. Case, from which the foregoing quotation is made, without perceiving how closely allied in principle are the three protective rights of the individual-that against compulsory self- accusation, that against unlawful searches and seizures, and that against unlawful inquisitorial investigations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code
ethical code
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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2007-12-12 00:43:54 GMT)
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instead od "all applicable" maybe better: "all necessary"
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Note added at 61 days (2008-02-09 18:58:57 GMT)
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Hi, Hilary. Did you choose one of the proposed terms? Thanks. Bernhard :-)
according to the ethics of social conduct
according to the ethical code of conduct
according to the rights of the (an) individual
It definitely goes in the direction Armorel is suggesting.
These are rights not guaranteed by any government but rules/ethics of social conduct/moral rights. I think rights of the individual comes very close as well. So my suggestion is somewhat following Armorel's and Tilman's.
how about:
Trotzdem haben in den meisten Ländern auch die Verbände der Marketing Researchsinstitute Regeln für den angemessenen Umgang mit den Persönlichkeitsrechten der Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer ans solchen Studien verabschiedet."
However (nevertheless), the associations of market research institutes have adopted rules (provisions) to make sure all participants are treated according to the protective rights due to any individual
http://isrc.payap.ac.th/document/papers/paper16.pdf
protective rights of the individual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_rights
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?ci...
No one can read these two great opinions, and the opinions in the Pacific Ry. Comm. Case, from which the foregoing quotation is made, without perceiving how closely allied in principle are the three protective rights of the individual-that against compulsory self- accusation, that against unlawful searches and seizures, and that against unlawful inquisitorial investigations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code
ethical code
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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2007-12-12 00:43:54 GMT)
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instead od "all applicable" maybe better: "all necessary"
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Note added at 61 days (2008-02-09 18:58:57 GMT)
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Hi, Hilary. Did you choose one of the proposed terms? Thanks. Bernhard :-)
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