Sep 28, 2004 17:11
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destape
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Con cerca de una década de diferencia, la sociedad argentina vivía el "destape" a la española.
This is a paper on the history of religion and law in Argentina.This part refers to conditions following the re-establishment of democracy in 1983. "Destape" seems to have both a literal meaning of nudity, at least in Spain, and a sociological meaning of the liberalization of society. Please enlighten me and help me come up with an English term that could cover both. Thanks.
This is a paper on the history of religion and law in Argentina.This part refers to conditions following the re-establishment of democracy in 1983. "Destape" seems to have both a literal meaning of nudity, at least in Spain, and a sociological meaning of the liberalization of society. Please enlighten me and help me come up with an English term that could cover both. Thanks.
Proposed translations
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| 3 | http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=493279 |
Andy Watkinson
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| 4 +3 | Opening up |
William Pairman
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| 4 +2 | stripping off its shackles |
Katherine Hodkinson
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| 5 +1 | liberalization |
Michele Fauble
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| 4 -1 | unleashing |
claudia16 (X)
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| 4 -1 | para contextualizar el asunto |
Ricardo Eid
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Proposed translations
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http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=493279
Ronda, this question has already arisen.
Anove you have a variety of options
Cheers,
Andy
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Note added at 45 mins (2004-09-28 17:56:19 GMT)
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By the way, the answer chosen in the question above was incorrect.
I would use Ruben\'s answer.
Anove you have a variety of options
Cheers,
Andy
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Note added at 45 mins (2004-09-28 17:56:19 GMT)
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By the way, the answer chosen in the question above was incorrect.
I would use Ruben\'s answer.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Maybe it's overkill, but I opted to leave "destape" in Spanish, in quotes, followed by "liberalizing transition" in square brackets, since the paper is going to be presented as a speech, and included a more complete (three-line) explanation of the "destape" in Spain in a footnote. The explanations given in the previous answer were what helped me explain the whole concept. "
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7 mins
William Pairman
Spain
Spain
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Spain
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Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Opening up
Although that period in Spain is always simply called the transition so maybe you could combine it "...an opening up similar to the Spanish Transition"
Just a thought
Just a thought
Peer comment(s):
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Andy Watkinson
: http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=493279
37 mins
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| agree |
Michele Fauble
54 mins
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| agree |
Felix Ortiz (X)
1 hr
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| neutral |
Gloria Colon
: a mi el unleashing citado por andy no me convence para nada
2 hrs
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| agree |
Xenia Wong
2 hrs
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38 mins
stripping off its shackles
"Argentinean society was stripping off its shackles, as had the Spanish some 10 years earlier..."
obviously it's a bit of a free translation of the rest of the sentence. also you usually throw off shackles rather than stripping - but i thought it might work in the context.
good luck!
obviously it's a bit of a free translation of the rest of the sentence. also you usually throw off shackles rather than stripping - but i thought it might work in the context.
good luck!
Peer comment(s):
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Andy Watkinson
: http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=493279
7 mins
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thanks andycw, obviously i hadn't seen that before i answered - makes for interesting reading!
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Michele Fauble
50 mins
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thanks michele
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townend
21 hrs
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thanks townend
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45 mins
unleashing
abrir desenfrenadamente
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Note added at 55 mins (2004-09-28 18:06:44 GMT)
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andy, se pueden abrir o destapar muchas cosas intangibles, no solo ropa
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Note added at 55 mins (2004-09-28 18:06:44 GMT)
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andy, se pueden abrir o destapar muchas cosas intangibles, no solo ropa
Peer comment(s):
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Andy Watkinson
: "abrir desenfrenadamente" - especially clothes......Addition: the "destape" in Spain had everything to do with nudity and very little to do with anything else..... :-)
0 min
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mentes, ideas, prejuicios.....
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Michele Fauble
: Not "unleashing" on its own. You need to say the "unleashing of ...".
41 mins
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| disagree |
Gloria Colon
: no me gusta y me parece que no funciona
2 hrs
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+1
1 hr
Michele Fauble
United States
United States
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Related KudoZ points
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4
liberalization
"opening-up" is another good option
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Note added at 1 hr 19 mins (2004-09-28 18:30:23 GMT)
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\"... Dissatisfied with the slow pace of post-Franco liberalization, he replaced Franco\'s last Prime ... Spain\'s first elections since 1936 to the Cortes (Parliament ... \"
www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2878.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr 34 mins (2004-09-28 18:45:52 GMT)
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\"... a particularly strong application of sodomy laws in the early modern period to a liberalization of sexual mores since the 1980s, Spanish society has displayed ...\"
www.glbtq.com/literature/spanish_lit,7.html
\"... Millions of women have entered the work force with the transition to democracy and liberalization of Spanish society following the death of dictator Francisco ...\"
www.turkishdailynews.com/old_editions/05_08_98/for2.htm - 35k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[\"... Clearly, this phenomenon corresponded with longtime dictator Francisco Franco’s death in 1975 and the subsequent liberalization of Spanish society. ...\"
www.mbc.edu/docs/publications/babel_01_fall.pdf - Supplemental Result - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr 19 mins (2004-09-28 18:30:23 GMT)
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\"... Dissatisfied with the slow pace of post-Franco liberalization, he replaced Franco\'s last Prime ... Spain\'s first elections since 1936 to the Cortes (Parliament ... \"
www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2878.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr 34 mins (2004-09-28 18:45:52 GMT)
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\"... a particularly strong application of sodomy laws in the early modern period to a liberalization of sexual mores since the 1980s, Spanish society has displayed ...\"
www.glbtq.com/literature/spanish_lit,7.html
\"... Millions of women have entered the work force with the transition to democracy and liberalization of Spanish society following the death of dictator Francisco ...\"
www.turkishdailynews.com/old_editions/05_08_98/for2.htm - 35k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[\"... Clearly, this phenomenon corresponded with longtime dictator Francisco Franco’s death in 1975 and the subsequent liberalization of Spanish society. ...\"
www.mbc.edu/docs/publications/babel_01_fall.pdf - Supplemental Result - Similar pages
-1
2 hrs
Ricardo Eid
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
para contextualizar el asunto
Dos décadas antes, en la China comunista, Mao Zedong proponía "que florezcan cien flores, que surjan cien movimientos" ("let a hundred flowers bloom..."), para aludir a una similar política de "liberalización".
Tres décadas antes, hubo una parecida política en la Unión Soviética gobernada por Jruchov.
Y lo que se llamó la "primaver de Praga", en 1968, tuvo también que ver con lo de la "liberalización": un relajamiento de los controles de las actividades políticas y culturales en sociedades entonces regidas por sistemas policíacos.
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Note added at 1 day 4 hrs 49 mins (2004-09-29 22:01:04 GMT)
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Los \"destapes\" a la española, en el sentido restringido de una relajación de la moral sexual pública, y argentino, en el sentido apertura socio-política tienen que ver con los sucesos similares en algunos aspectos, que ocurrieron en otros lugares en una época cercana.
Tres décadas antes, hubo una parecida política en la Unión Soviética gobernada por Jruchov.
Y lo que se llamó la "primaver de Praga", en 1968, tuvo también que ver con lo de la "liberalización": un relajamiento de los controles de las actividades políticas y culturales en sociedades entonces regidas por sistemas policíacos.
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Note added at 1 day 4 hrs 49 mins (2004-09-29 22:01:04 GMT)
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Los \"destapes\" a la española, en el sentido restringido de una relajación de la moral sexual pública, y argentino, en el sentido apertura socio-política tienen que ver con los sucesos similares en algunos aspectos, que ocurrieron en otros lugares en una época cercana.
Peer comment(s):
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Andy Watkinson
: Mil perdones, pero el "destape a la española" nada tenía que ver con el contexto que planteas.
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andycw: Fíjate arriba mi respuesta a tu disagreement.
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