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May 29, 2023 15:43
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Dutch term

thematische verlof/verloven

FVA Dutch to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general) Privacyverklaring of a Belgian company
see: "In Nederland zijn de verschillende vormen van verlof geregeld in het Burgerlijk Wetboek en de Wet arbeid en zorg, en is er een regeling voor loondoorbetaling bij ziekte en vakantieverlof. In een cao kunnen andere vormen van verlof geregeld zijn, bijvoorbeeld het vorstverlet.

In België worden deze materies geregeld onder de noemer thematische verloven."

(https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlof )

Any suggestions? My own context is a privacyverklaring of a Belgian company.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 Leave systems/types of leave to help combine work and family life
4 thematisch verlof/congé thématique
3 Leave From Work
References
Crystal clear explanation in one of the other official Belgian languages

Discussion

Michael Beijer (asker) May 30, 2023:
my actual context:
Michael Beijer (asker) May 29, 2023:
@Textpertise Thanks, I tried that, but think it might be a dead end.

Looking at: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlof

"Arbeid
In een arbeidsrelatie is verlof het recht om tijdelijk niet werkzaam te zijn. Zo bestaan bijvoorbeeld de volgende vormen van verlof:

• vakantieverlof
• ziekteverlof
• bijzonder verlof, ook buitengewoon verlof (vooral militair)
• zwangerschaps- en bevallingsverlof / moederschapsrust
• ouderschapsverlof
• calamiteitenverlof en ander kort verzuimverlof (Nederland)
• klein verlet (België)

In Nederland zijn de verschillende vormen van verlof geregeld in het Burgerlijk Wetboek en de Wet arbeid en zorg, en is er een regeling voor loondoorbetaling bij ziekte en vakantieverlof. In een cao kunnen andere vormen van verlof geregeld zijn, bijvoorbeeld het vorstverlet.

In België worden deze materies* geregeld onder de noemer thematische verloven."

* = "de verschillende vormen van verlof"

I therefore still think that all "thematische verloven" means is: "various types of leave taken for specific purposes", etc. That is, it doesn't refer to any single, specific type of leave, but to "various types of leave taken for specific purposes".
Textpertise May 29, 2023:
Further to my post just now I don't have the time to do it for you at the moment, Michael, but in your position, I would check the legislation cited in the above Paterna article to see how it has been translated there. The legislation pre-dates Brexit so my hunch would be that you should have official EU adopted translations that can be found.
Textpertise May 29, 2023:
It is a strictly Belgian expression https://www.partena-professional.be/en/knowledge-center/info... would seem to be another example where thematic leave is used. I doubt whether the term is in use in either the US or the UK. Do you require the equivalent there for your purposes?
Michael Beijer (asker) May 29, 2023:
hmm just noticed it is in the Juridisch-Economisch Lexicon too:

(B) thematisch verlof =
thematic leave
Michael Beijer (asker) May 29, 2023:
WordReference https://www.wordreference.com/fren/congé thématique

has:




Français:
• congé thématique
France (type de congé legal)

Anglais:
• special leave, leave for a specific purpose n
• (US) family and medical leave n
Michael Beijer (asker) May 29, 2023:
~ In the "PAGINA VAN DE BELGISCHE VERTALER", I found this:



=>

thematische verloven = congés thématique

Linguee then has:



=>

congés thématique = leave taken for specific purposes (banquenationale.be)
congés thématique = special leave (nbb.be)
TDVTrans May 29, 2023:
leave of absence That's I think what they would call it here in the US, no? Not sure about British English though.
Michael Beijer (asker) May 29, 2023:
hmm So far, I was using "various types of leave", as this seems to cover the list @ https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlof

I have also seen various Belgian websites translate this as "thematic leave", but thought this seemed a bit too literal.
TDVTrans May 29, 2023:
leave of absence That's I think what they would call it here in the US, no? Not sure about British English though.
James Duncan May 29, 2023:
According to what is stated at https://www.rva.be/burgers/loopbaanonderbreking-tijdskrediet... it refers to 4 specific types of special leave.

Proposed translations

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Leave systems/types of leave to help combine work and family life

In line with what Writeaway suggested, perhaps this could be a way of describing 'thematische verloven'.
Reference:
https://www.kuleuven.be/english/life-at-ku-leuven/partner-an...
Leave systems
In Belgium, several governmental leave systems exist that are specifically designed to help combine work and family life: parental leave, medical assistance leave, palliative care leave and time credit/care credit. In most of the systems, there is a possibility to temporarily reduce your employment by 100%, 50% or 20%. A 10% reduction (0.5 day/week or 1 day/2weeks) is also possible under the parental leave system. The reduced wage is (partly) compensated by an allowance from the Belgian and/or regional government.
Note from asker:
Thanks, in my context, this seems to work best: "various types of leave to help combine work and family life". There is no need to mention the Dutch/French, and use brackets or whatever as it's just a list of things meant as general info (see screenshot in dbox!).
Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway
27 mins
Thanks!
agree Kitty Brussaard
2 days 13 hrs
Thanks Kitty!
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Leave From Work

https://www.personio.com/hr-lexicon/types-of-leave/#what-is-...
"What Is Leave From Work?

Leave is the time that employees take off work during otherwise normal working hours which they are entitled to, by law, or by contract. The thing to know is that leave comes in various forms and various levels of entitlement.
How Many Types Of Leave Are There?

It depends on the company! Companies can determine how generous they want to be with types of leave — but they must also provide the minimum requirements required by law."
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thematisch verlof/congé thématique

You can't translate this into English, because you're then creating a meaningless statement. English is not an official language in Belgium, so this term doesn't have an English name there.

I would say something like: "In Belgium, these are referred to collectively as 'thematisch verlof/congé thématique'", possibly followed by a literal translation in brackets.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Crystal clear explanation in one of the other official Belgian languages

Procédure de demande des congés thématiques
SERVICES EN LIGNE
T14

Dernière mise à jour : 17.02.2023

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Les congés thématiques sont des formes spécifiques d’interruption de carrière. Pendant une période déterminée, ils vous permettent d’interrompre complètement ou partiellement vos prestations pour des besoins précis.

Il y a 4 congés thématiques.

Le congé parental. Il a pour but de vous occuper de votre ou de vos enfant(s) de moins de 12 ans (ou de moins de 21 ans en cas d’handicap). Pour plus d’informations à ce sujet, vous pouvez consulter la feuille info T19.

Le congé pour assistance médicale. Il a pour but de vous occuper d’un membre de votre famille ou de votre ménage qui souffre d’une maladie grave. Pour plus d’informations à ce sujet, vous pouvez consulter la feuille info T18.

Le congé pour soins palliatifs. Il a pour but de rester aux côtés d’une personne ayant une maladie incurable en phase terminale. Pour plus d’informations à ce sujet, vous pouvez consulter la feuille info T20.

Le congé pour aidants proches: ce congé peut être pris, si vous êtes reconnu comme aidant proche, afin d’apporter de l’aide ou du soutien à une personne qui, en raison de son grand âge, de son état de santé ou de son handicap est vulnérable et en situation de dépendance. . Il ne doit pas nécessairement s’agir d’un membre de la famille ou du ménage. Vous pouvez consulter la feuille-info T164 pour obtenir plus d’informations à ce sujet.

Pendant les congés thématiques, vous pouvez obtenir des allocations d’interruption de l’ONEM, à titre de revenu de remplacement. Pour connaître les montants de ces allocations, vous pouvez consulter les barèmes disponibles sur notre site.
https://www.onem.be/citoyens/interruption-de-carriere-credit...
Note from asker:
Thanks!
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Ruchira Raychaudhuri : And in Dutch: https://www.vlaanderen.be/tijdskrediet-vlaams-zorgkrediet-en...
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Makes sense it's in Dutch too. Most such Belgian documents are in both languages and even German. I always had Fr and Dutch versions to look at when I translated them into English. Helpful in case one language is unclear.
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