Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
silenzioze e utili gregarie
English translation:
silent and useful helpers
Added to glossary by
Barbara Cochran, MFA
Mar 24, 2020 13:36
4 yrs ago
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Italian term
silenzioze e utili gregarie
Italian to English
Art/Literary
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Book On Explorations And Discoveries
Contesto:
Oggi sappiamo però che anche le donne hanno contribuito all'esplorazione di alcune parti della Terra. Non solo come slienziose e utili gregarie, ma anche in prima persona.
Molte Grazie,
Barbara
Oggi sappiamo però che anche le donne hanno contribuito all'esplorazione di alcune parti della Terra. Non solo come slienziose e utili gregarie, ma anche in prima persona.
Molte Grazie,
Barbara
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | silent and useful assistants | Sabrina Bruna |
4 +3 | silent and useful underlings | Lisa Jane |
4 | silent and useful followers / travelling companions | Michael Korovkin |
Change log
Mar 29, 2020 13:27: Barbara Cochran, MFA Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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silent and useful assistants
A proposal
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Note added at 51 min (2020-03-24 14:28:18 GMT)
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Hi Barbara, yes, I think "helpers" is another valid option.
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Note added at 51 min (2020-03-24 14:28:18 GMT)
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Hi Barbara, yes, I think "helpers" is another valid option.
Note from asker:
Thanks. I think you have the right idea, but I would use "helpers" instead of "assistants". |
Peer comment(s):
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Shabelula
: gregario è un po' dispregiativo
18 mins
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sì, anche a me suona un po' dispregiativo
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Adriana Esposito
: non credo "gregario" sia dispregiativo. Nel ciclismo è utilizzato per indicare una figura importante e fondamentale per la vittoria (v. https://www.ultimouomo.com/gregari-ciclismo-scarponi/).
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nel ciclimo il gregario è una figura decisamente importante, ma qui il termine sembra assumere una sfumatura più dispregiativa
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martini
2 hrs
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grazie :)
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Shera Lyn Parpia
1 day 3 hrs
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thank you :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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silent and useful underlings
if you want to maintain the slightly derogatory sense implied in the Italian 'gregaria' from gregge (herd), perhaps you could use this
Meaning of underling in English
uk
/ˈʌn.dəl.ɪŋ/ us
/ˈʌn.dɚ.lɪŋ/
a person of low rank and little authority who works for someone more important:
She surrounded herself with underlings who were too afraid of her to answer back.
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Note added at 1 hr (2020-03-24 14:49:12 GMT)
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This would also underline the contrast implied at the beginning "non solo...)
Meaning of underling in English
uk
/ˈʌn.dəl.ɪŋ/ us
/ˈʌn.dɚ.lɪŋ/
a person of low rank and little authority who works for someone more important:
She surrounded herself with underlings who were too afraid of her to answer back.
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Note added at 1 hr (2020-03-24 14:49:12 GMT)
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This would also underline the contrast implied at the beginning "non solo...)
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: I think this is a good idea, though I'm not sure it merits a separate answer.
3 hrs
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I don't see why not, I'm sure the asker knew how to translate silenziose e utili and that her doubt concerned how to tender gregarie.
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Michele Fauble
6 hrs
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agree |
bluenoric
: yes, maybe subordinates could work too here
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7 hrs
silent and useful followers / travelling companions
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