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Aug 20, 2013 10:59
10 yrs ago
Romanian term

creaţii populare

Romanian to English Art/Literary Folklore
Textele urătorilor sunt creaţii populare şi ţin de munca agrară, în special, de creşterea pâinii.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +2 folk creations
5 folk art creations
4 folk creation/art
4 works of folklore/the work of folklore
3 -2 Folk designs / Folk Art
Change log

Aug 20, 2013 12:22: Lucica Abil (X) changed "Language pair" from "English to Romanian" to "Romanian to English"

Discussion

Claudia Coja Aug 20, 2013:
Folk art I have suggested "folk art"... I still find it suitable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_art
Lara Barnett Aug 20, 2013:
@ Sangro Thank you for clarification. In this case I would not use the term "creation" in this context. The term really ought to be expressed in a more specific way before. Unless the preceding text has given explicit details about this. Which is why I suggested fuller context. It is one thing justifying its usage with a web link, and quite another thing to actually use it legitimately yourself if you come from another culture, no matter how well you can master the language technically speaking.
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman Aug 20, 2013:
@Lara The point is, the term is not used on its own at all, but rather in its very clear context: "Textele urătorilor". As it is, there is no need for additional context. This IS the context. Folk creations as used in the text of folk Christmas/New Year carols. No other meanings. There is an additional explanation, that such "creations" refer to agricultural processes, and in particular bread making, IOW, these are short poems about bread-making and other such activities.
Lara Barnett Aug 20, 2013:
@ Sangro Maybe, but the point I am making is that when we use "creation" on its own like the Romanian has done, it is used for emphasis. It is not a strictly technical term to denote a particular item that has been created. That is all I said. The usage can be found, but it has an attitudinal value to give a piece of writing/speech some sort of emotive or stylistic emphasis. -- And this is why I suggested that more context is needed (i.e. more of the source text), so that the target text does not risk sounding like something written by somebody who does not understand English usage/flow. It is one thing giving an excellent technical and literal translation and telling the English translators to go away, but if the text uses terms which do not flow into the English way of speaking/writing, it is the client that is compromised.
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman Aug 20, 2013:
@Lara The "folk creations" are Christmas carols describing agricultural work and bread making.
Lara Barnett Aug 20, 2013:
Creation - context needed In English "creation" is always a bit redundant if it is used on its own without more detail about the piece of art it is used for. I think we need more context about this as I think in English it would be better on this occasion to be more specific. i.e. "creation" is too general a word to use on its own easily. It can be used like this, but this is when there has already been a particular emphasis placed on an artist's work or on the creative work that is being discussed.
It is a difficult word to use alone. Maybe this is not so for Romanian - but the language usage is not the same across our cultures.

Proposed translations

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22 mins
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folk creations

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklore_of_Romania
'Customs related to certain times of year are the colinde - Romanian Christmas carols, sorcova on New Year's Eve or the Mărţişor custom on the 1st of March marking the spring. '

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'Thus, the music and Cymatic patterns in a drop of water are completely authentic and original creations --- a musical setting without lyrics and true to the original "chant," under full copyright (for those wishing to lay claim) by The Music Guild.'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dDeNWVFuDI

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'Vocal Union strongly encourages the creation and performance of original music and is looking into ways to support and acknowledge this.'
http://www.vocalunion.org.uk/KS3.php

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creation NOUN=a thing that somebody has made, especially something that shows ability or imagination
a literary creation
The cake was a delicious creation of sponge, cream and fruit.
The bright murals in the children's ward were the creations of the nurses.
What an amazing creation (= a very unusual and new piece of clothing) you're wearing!
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/creat...
Peer comment(s):
agree Andreea Andrei
2 mins
Mulţumesc!
disagree Lara Barnett : This does not really mean much in English. If we say something is a "creation", there is usually more emphasis given in the text as to what exactly this is composed.// I am talking about usage of the word. Your examples show emphatic, not technical usage
9 mins
It says what is must say:these texts are folk creations and speak about working the field and making bread.
agree Alexandranow
1 hr
Mulţumesc, Alexandra!
agree RODICA CIOBANU
7 days
Mulţumesc!
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22 mins

folk creation/art

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_art
"...ballads were originally a folk creation, transmitted orally from person to person and age to age."
http://teachers.lakesideschool.org/us/english/7Glossary.htm
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-2
34 mins

Folk designs / Folk Art

I am assuming that this is a visual context.

"Folk art encompasses art produced from an indigenous culture or by peasants or other laboring tradespeople. In contrast to fine art, folk art is primarily utilitarian and decorative rather than purely aesthetic.[1] Folk Art is characterized by a naive style, in which traditional rules of proportion and perspective are not employed. Closely related terms are Outsider Art, Self-Taught Art and Naïve art.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_art
Peer comment(s):
agree wordbridge
56 mins
disagree Alexandranow : design???here?
57 mins
disagree Sunshade : It refers to fieldwork and bread making, I wouldn't call them designs
1 hr
disagree crocox : Folk designs for decorations, paintings, costumes, not verses and songs. Folk art is too general.
1 hr
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2 hrs

works of folklore/the work of folklore

The songs of carol singers are works of folklore/the work of folklore and they are related to field work, namely the making of bread.
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8 hrs

folk art creations

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Awrj4kevxRNSDC0AXAml87UF...

If you search more you can find out that this term also refers to, for instance, "the art of making bread", too, and so on ...

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Note added at 8 hrs (2013-08-20 19:50:21 GMT)
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For the US: Country Folk Art Creations.

Folk Art is Art that is made by the Folk so there should be no fears to use this term. Also true for Folk Art Creations! This is a true Art and it does include other and all fields of daily life. Just visit a traditional country cottage and walk into a dream where every little thing has been "created" with Folk Art. It is not only a technical skill. The Romanian Blouse has motives involving myths and folk-lore going back thousands of years and telling a story we have forgotten, remembering ancient events. And this is not literature or art?! Old carpets tell us about the ordeals of the first Christians by means of motifs ... One has only to look and understand ...
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