Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

durer à la mer

English translation:

(designed) for enduring/long-lasting seaworthiness

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Apr 11, 2013 15:24
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French term

durer à la mer

French to English Tech/Engineering Ships, Sailing, Maritime
Conçu pour durer à la mer, it's a slogan for a military ship.
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Apr 15, 2013 16:43: Yvonne Gallagher Created KOG entry

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Discussion

Nikki Scott-Despaigne Apr 11, 2013:
When you say a "slogan", do you mean for marketing or commercial purposes? Or do you in fact mean a motto for the vessel? We could probably use more context here to target suggestions more effectively.

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(designed) for enduring seaworthiness

another option. I think this is about endurance and seaworthiness

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for long-lasting seaworthiness
long-lasting endurance

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"enduring" used as an adjective where it mean long-lasting, durable, hardwearing

but of course "long-lasting" can just as easily be substituted as given in the alternatives

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and of course "Conçu" can also be translated in different ways but here, where you said it's a slogan (yes, what type? what purpose?) I thought "designed" was better than "built" but either could be used based on the full text.



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glad to have helped
Peer comment(s):

neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "Seaworthiness" is the "mot juste" here. Endurance is implied too. I am supposing you intend "enduring" to be descriptive, but thus expressed, it reads also as a verb.
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Ok, intended as adjective as I think is clear from my alternatives...
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to last at sea

meaning strongly resistant to sea conditions
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Peer comment(s):

agree David Reilly
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agree philgoddard
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Thank you Phil.
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : It's an accurate rendering of what is there, but in context, as a slogan, it cld apply to any vessel. I agree with your interpretation of meaning, but for the rendering we need more specific context.
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Thank you Nikki.
neutral Catharine Cellier-Smart : the world "last" when talking about a ship makes me think of "list" (as in "the ship is listing"), although that's an entirely personal point of view on my part, and as Nikki has said we don't have much context to go on.
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to withstand the waves

If its more in a marketing sense.

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The longship was very sturdy, and yet flexible enough to withstand the waves of stormy seas
http://www.glen-l.com/weblettr/webletters-12/wl99-viking.htm...

The vessel must be sufficiently seaworthy to withstand the waves of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans
http://eps.mcgill.ca/~crowe/EPS350/Perutz_1946_Journal_of_Gl... (incredible article!)

Unfortunately for the Bounty, she wasn't made of steel to withstand the waves.
http://weather.yahoo.com/photos/hms-bounty-slideshow/file-ju...
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French term (edited): "conçu pour durer à la mer"

Built to last!

As a slogan, I think you need to read the whole slogan to find a good rendering in English. Indeed, one possibility even excludes "à la mer", three out of the four words in the original post.
If you abandon the idea of a slogan but adopt that of a description, then you would need to adopt a different approach. There, you would need to consider the notion of seaworthiness, for example.
One suggestion made includes something which is between a slogan and a description. "Built to last at sea" does not go far enough in suggesting what type of specific qualities might make her seaworthy. You could also say that any ship is built to last at sea. As a slogan, in English, it almost has the effect of suggesting something so obvious that it should not be questioned.
More context would be helpful. Who has this been written by and to whom is it addressed? What type of vessel ins concerned?

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Peer comment(s):

neutral Catharine Cellier-Smart : the world "last" when talking about a ship makes me think of "list" (as in "the ship is listing"), although that's an entirely personal point of view on my part, and as you say we don't have much context to go on.
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(built) for the long haul at sea

Otherwise I link Drmanu49's suggestion
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robust seaworthy design

If this is indeed a slogan, then you don't have to stick with the "designed to"

A ship that isn't designed to withstand the sea is not much of ship, so you really nead to get across that it's robust and seaworthy. How you do it is up to you.

http://www.888-go-longy.com/legal-definition-of-seaworthines...
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