Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

when the proverbial stuff hits the fan

English answer:

when things become uncontrollable or chaotic

Added to glossary by British Diana
Feb 21, 2011 06:08
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English term

when the proverbial stuff hits the fan

Non-PRO English Other Business/Commerce (general)
Colleagues, I'm not familiar with the meaning of this phrase in English, what does it mean? Here's the context:

When the proverbial stuff is hitting the fan and people are hurt, we all come together.
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Feb 21, 2011 10:17: Sandra & Kenneth Grossman changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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Discussion

Veronika McLaren Feb 21, 2011:
maybe vulgar, but commonly known twists on when the "fit hits the shan"
kmtext Feb 21, 2011:
Things get messy and everyone either ducks or runs for cover.
Mikhail Kropotov Feb 21, 2011:
When the shit hits the fan www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/407950.html

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when things become uncontrollable or chaotic

The original word is "shit" but "stuff" is used because "sh**" might be objected to.

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kmtext has put it very well and graphically (see Discussion)
Peer comment(s):

agree Jack Doughty
1 hr
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agree Shera Lyn Parpia
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agree B D Finch
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agree P.L.F. Persio
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agree Vicky Nash
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agree kmtext
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agree Phong Le
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agree Polangmar
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agree Pham Huu Phuoc
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agree jenbikkal (X)
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+5
20 mins

when the shit hits the fan

when everything goes wrong
Peer comment(s):

agree Andrei Vrabtchev
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agree P.L.F. Persio
1 hr
agree Polangmar
7 hrs
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : Explains both the original expression and the meaning.
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agree Veronika McLaren : with Tina
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+3
32 mins

when things become really bad/dangerous/everything goes wrong

Wghen everything goes wrong, people come together.
Peer comment(s):

agree Sarah Bessioud
1 hr
Thank you. :)
agree P.L.F. Persio
1 hr
Thank you. :)
agree Donna Stevens : Good meaning for the idiom 'When the shit hits the fan'
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Thank you, Donna. :)
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6 hrs

when things escalate

When an event or something suddenly escalates and gets out of control
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10 hrs

A reference to the messy consequences of a secret or private situation becoming public

A reference to the messy consequences of a secret or private situation becoming public
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_the_shit_hits_the_fan

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:when the...

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Saludos & don't forget to "duck" at the right moment! :))
eski


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Meaning
Messy and exciting consequences brought about by a previously secret situation becoming public.

Origin
This expression alludes to the unmissable effects of shit being thrown into an electric fan. It appears to have originated in the 1930s. I can't say better than 'appears' as the earliest citation of it that I can find is in the 1967 edition of Eric Partridge's A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English:

"Wait till the major hears that! Then the shit'll hit the fan!"

Partridge lists the phrase as Canadian, circa 1930, but as he gives no supporting evidence we have to go by the 1967 date, although it is undoubtedly earlier.

Other, more polite, forms of the phrase, involving eggs, pie, soup and 'stuff', can certainly be dated from the USA the 1940s. For example, Max Chennault's Up Sun, 1945:

"Sounds like the stuff was about to hit the fan."

The Fresno Bee Republican, May 1948, reported on a psychiatrists' convention, under the heading See How Brain Boys Also Run Wild:

"However, once that opening point was settled, the psychiatrists entered wholly in the business of the convention, which culminated, of course, in the selection of officers for the coming year. And that, as the saying goes, was when the soup hit the fan."

The other versions followed soon afterwards.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/407950.html

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the "shit hits the fan"

My copy of Dictionary of American Slang, HarperCollins 2007 (fourth ed.), provides us with good help: "Trouble breaks out; a fearful crisis ensues; things turn nasty." But the interesting part they give us is a confident note on origin:
"[1930s+; fr the classical joke about the man who, finding no toilet (upstairs), defecated into a hole in the floor; back downstairs, finding the barroom emptied of its celebrants, he inquired why, and was asked, 'Where were you when the shit hit the fan?']"
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