Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

philosophical mumbo jumbo

German translation:

philosophisches Hokus-Pokus

Added to glossary by Homma
Feb 18, 2003 18:55
21 yrs ago
English term

"philosophical mumbo jumbo"

Non-PRO English to German Art/Literary
An American music critic writing about a composer's "penchant for lugubrious music that can seem like the musical equivalent of philosophical mumbo jumbo."
Is "mumbo jumbo" something like - nonsense words pretending to have profound meaning, maybe the German "bla-bla"?

Proposed translations

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philosophisches Wischiwaschi

or Wischiwaschi-Philosophie

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Note added at 2003-02-19 10:05:06 (GMT)
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Mumbo jumbo = meaningless ritual, language/action intended to mystify or confuse origin (Oxford English Dictionary)

This is not really a slang expression so shouldn\'t be translated as such. I don\'t think Geschwafel, Gelaber, Gesülze, Gequatsche etc is quite the right register for the text.

The translation needs to get across that mumbo jumbo means
- that it is impenetrable jargonese
- and therefore incomprehensible
- and therefore meaningless information

How about something like:

musikalisches Pendant zu...
philosophischer Quacksalberei
Hegel\'schem Wischiwaschi (with a bit of artistic licence)
philosophische Wichtigtuerei
hochtrabende Philosophie-Fachsimpelei
fachchinesische Philosopie-Ausführungen

hope it helps
Peer comment(s):

agree Annette Scheler : Wichtigtuerei trifft es gut, finde ich
11 hrs
agree Sandra Milosavljevic-Rothe
15 hrs
thanks, ladies
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "A GREAT "THANK YOU" !!! Thank you all. Among your suggestions (they were all helpful!) I like "fauler Zauber" - for the very sound of it (mumbo jumbo, Wischiwaschi, fauler Zauber), and also for its lack of purely verbal connotations. I studied philosophy, so I can imagine how it must sound when we read about "existence": "Existenz ist das Sein desjenigen Seins, welches offen ist für die Offenheit des Seins, in der es steht, indem es sie aussteht." (Heidegger) But I could not think of any musical equivalent. "pseudo-philosophisches" Getue / Gehabe / Gebaren - thank you, Nicole, for your detailed explanations. How about "pseudo-philosophischer Hokus-Pokus" oder "pseudo-philosophischer fauler Zauber"? Thank you all !!! MartinaH P. S. I'd say, that "Tam-tam" (suggested by somebody) is wrong. A "Tam-tam" is the loudest and acoustically most impressive of all orchestral instruments - once hit, everybody understands that "this is the climax". A philosophical tam-tam could therefore be a medieval "our earth is not the center of the universe", or it could be Darwin's theory, nothing less. "
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philosophisches Bla-bla ...

seems to be right ... though i have got the feeling we've got something better in german ... oh well, perhaps not ... ovid
Peer comment(s):

agree hirselina : Richtig. "Geschafel" unten = ein Fehler
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17 mins

philosophisches Geschwafel

philosophisches Geschwafel
(sehr abwertend)

oder

philosophisches Kauderwelsch
(mehr wenn es in Richtung Unverständlichkeit geht, aber evtl. doch Sinn dahintersteht)
Peer comment(s):

agree hirselina : Oder Geschwätz, aber "Geschafel" klingt besser
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agree ovid : that's what i was looking for: Geschwafel oder Kauderwelsch ... muß ich mir merken ... danke dsc ... ovid
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agree Alexander Schleber (X) : Besser, und ohne Denglisch
16 mins
agree Сергей Лузан : Kauderwelsch Re.: Collins
31 mins
agree Steffen Syhré - German Translator, Copywriter, Editor : Nettes Gesülz
57 mins
agree Radka Grossova
3 hrs
agree Johanna Timm, PhD : genau
8 hrs
agree pschmitt
13 hrs
agree Edith Rommelfangen
14 hrs
agree Petra Dr. Schmidt-Sarbutt
15 hrs
agree Uta Muller
16 hrs
agree Anja Toddington
2 days 23 hrs
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2 hrs

philosophisches Gelaber

another possibility
Peer comment(s):

agree Ellen Zittinger : I like this one
2 hrs
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philosphisches Tam-tam

philosophische Fachsimpelei

are another couple of possibilities. Basically, mumbo jumbo means jargon dressed up to seem understandable (but it ain't!!!)
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philosophisches Tohuwabohu

yet another term
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philosophischer Mummenschanz

- tät mir einfallen.
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philospophischer Schmarrn

my Austro-Bavarian roots strongly suggest this translation!!!
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philosophisches Gesabbel

just another poss. in the same league as "Gelaber" and Geschwafel
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1 day 4 hrs

philosophisches Kauderwelsch

see reference

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Note added at 2003-02-19 23:07:39 (GMT)
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my other dictionary says \"fauler Zauber\" but I\'m not sure
Reference:

http://dict.leo.org

Peer comment(s):

agree Sandra Milosavljevic-Rothe : das ist auch gut
10 hrs
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