Glossary entry

Czech term or phrase:

oddávající

English translation:

solemnizing officer / councillor

Added to glossary by Marek Obdrzalek
Jan 24, 2006 10:04
18 yrs ago
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Czech term

oddávající

Czech to English Other Law (general) Wedding
úředník, který oddává snoubence, ne kněz
clerk who accomplishes the marriage, not the priest, civil clerk (generally)

Discussion

Pavel Blann Jan 30, 2006:
Congratulations to Mr. Buchtel for correctly guessing the geographical context (Czech Republic), which should've been stated originally: Because it wasn't a lot of people wasted their time discussing other (incorrect) possibilities. :(
Marek Buchtel Jan 24, 2006:
Zde je d�le�it� �ir�� kontext. Pokud p�ekl�d�te text o UK, ur�it� je na m�st� "registrar", pokud se ale jedn� o �R, mysl�m, �e by to nebylo vhodn� (to by se v�m pan starosta pod�koval :-))

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solemnizing officer / councillor

Obecně officer, ale v ČR oddává skoro vždy starosta nebo člen zastupitelstva, takže lze použít rovnou councillor.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Děkuji. Použil jsem Vᚠnávrh, překládal jsem text vztahující se k oddávání v ČR, Vᚠnávrh byl tedy nejpřenější. Překvapila mne velká diskuze, která se kolem tohoto dotazu vytvořila. Ještě jednou díky. M. O."
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registrar

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Note added at 52 mins (2006-01-24 10:57:26 GMT)
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Také "wedding officer", viz Tools -> Web Term Search zde na ProZ.com
Peer comment(s):

agree David Knowles : Definitely registrar in the UK
42 mins
I appreciate it
agree Gabriela Verešová
46 mins
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agree Jan Kolbaba : with "registrar"
1 hr
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agree Tatiana Lawson : In the United Kingdom, the civil wedding ceremony is conducted in the Register Office by a Registrar - it usually is Registrar, Deputy Registrar or - not very often - the Superintendent Registrar.
1 hr
thanks for your input
disagree Johan Venter : Registrar --> One who is in charge of official records. A wedding is not an official record, but a ceremony.//I think you'll find that your disagree with Squeezy's answer is uncalled for & in fact incorrect, which is why I changed my neutral to a disagree
1 hr
"Registrar" has many meanings, not all of them may be common for you/your country. // No problem--expressing/changing opinions is your right as well as my right. Please tell us why my opinion is incorrect. Thank you.
agree Marketa Dolezalova (X)
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officiant

A registrar is not always authorised to perform a wedding as this mostly refers to the official papers involved in the ceremony, rather than the ceremony itself.

A (Wedding) Officiant is used in civil as well as religious ceremonies.

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Taken from Answers.com, indicating that officiant is used in both civil and religious ceremonies (Interesting enough, Registrar is not mentioned here, yet they do mention the registry office):

Weddings
The ceremony in which a marriage is enacted and announced to the community is called a wedding. A wedding in which a couple marry in the "eyes of the law" is called a civil marriage. Religions also facilitate weddings, in the "eyes of God." In many European and some Latin American countries, where someone chooses a religious ceremony, they must also hold that ceremony separate from the civil ceremony. Certain countries, like Belgium and the Netherlands even legally demand that the civil marriage has to take place before any religious marriage. In some countries, notably the United States, the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland and Spain both ceremonies can be held together; the **officiant** at the RELIGIOUS AND COMMUNITY CEREMONY also serves as an agent of the state to enact the civil marriage. That does not mean that the state is "recognizing" religious marriages; the "civil" ceremony just takes place at the same time as the religious ceremony. Often this involves simply signing a register during the religious ceremony. If that civil element of the full ceremony is left out for any reason, in the eyes of the law no marriage took place, irrespective of the holding of the religious ceremony.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=tx2o79rkj8ce?...

Here is also an interesting transcript of a debate on changing wording on a bill, none the less, where a religious group is against the word officiant in Ireland: http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/finance/moe/moe020924.htm

Peer comment(s):

agree Johan Venter : 17,200 web hits for "marriage Officiant", 170,000 for "wedding officiant" compared to only 151 for "wedding registrar" and 1,920 for "Marraige Registrar". The numbers tell the story...
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Thank you
disagree Pavel Blann : "Officiant" comes from the Christian church, as is even indicated by this answer. This question is re: a _civil_ marriage (i.e. _no_ religious connotations whatsoever).
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Officiant is used in both civil and religious ceremonies, many references on the net.//Look beyond page 1 when googling "officiant" and you'll note that it is not only used in religious context and is by far the most common term used in English
agree Misha Smid : with Venter, officiant is commonly used to describe the person who solemnizes marriage; http://www.wedalert.com/content/articles/having_a_civil_cerm...
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marriage celebrant

This is the term you would use in Australia, although I am not sure if that is what you're after. If you want to pinpoint a role of a person employed or designated for performing as a marriage celebrant at the City Council then that is hard to do - it can be one of the councillors as mentioned above, but it can be a licenced celebrant contracted to do so at the offices of the Council. But it is obviously a marriage celebrant of some type...
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registrar (UK)

I just wanted to comment briefly on the debate re: 'registrar'. It is not only an admin term (as to a keeper of the marriage records) but also a term for a person that physically does perform the actual civic wedding ceremony i.e. non-religious in the United Kingdom (at least mine & my friends' wedding ceremonies did :)
However, the terms are going to differ from country to country (UK, Australia, USA & Canada, etc), depending on the type of the ceremony & legislation of each coun
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Superintendent Registrar >>>

in UK, read more at www.horsleyhall.co.uk/wedding_ceremony.htm
(Civil ceremony can be conducted by Licence or Certificate and requires...)

in Australia Civil Marriage Celebrant www.vlady-celebrant.com

in USA someone who has Credentials to Perform Marriages (before someone can perform marriages ceremonies in XY, they must first file their certificate of ordination...)
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