Glossary entry

Romanian term or phrase:

eroare comuna si invincibila

English translation:

common and unavoidable error/mistake

Added to glossary by Nina Iordache
Dec 11, 2011 09:28
12 yrs ago
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Romanian term

eroare comuna si invincibila

Romanian to English Law/Patents Law (general) trials
In original, exprimarea este:
"-X s-a aflat într-o eroare comună şi invincibilă cu privire la calitatea de mandatar a paratului Y"
Adica a crezut ca ala e mandatar si de fapt nu era...
Nu l-am gasit pe nicaieri.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 common and invincible error
Change log

Dec 12, 2011 12:39: Oana Clapa changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/91804">Oana Clapa's</a> old entry - "eroare comuna si invincibila"" to ""common and invincible error""

May 20, 2014 14:53: Nina Iordache changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/91804">Oana Clapa's</a> old entry - "eroare comuna si invincibila"" to ""common and unavoidable error/mistake""

Discussion

Cristina Crişan Dec 12, 2011:
Oana:
Consider raspunsul deja postat ca fiind corect, altfel nu as fi dat agree. In rest, ma bucur daca variantele alternative pe care le-am oferit sunt de folos cuiva....Spor la treaba.
Oana Clapa (asker) Dec 12, 2011:
Posteaza te rog raspunsul mai jos, MCristy, mi se pare o idee buna!
Cristina Crişan Dec 12, 2011:
Cautati "common mistake of fact" (exemplu: (a) Cases where each party is mistaken in substantially the same respect, for which I suggest the clearest label is “common mistake”;)
http://www.chba.org.uk/library/?a=90002
Pentru invincibil o alta varianta ar fi unavoidable.
Oana Clapa (asker) Dec 11, 2011:
Am cautat common and invincible error din prima evident, dar primesc numai 5 rezultate si alea sunt aproape toate pe site-uri .ro. Parca vad ca e fro expresie in latina sau ceva similar ... asta daca exista!

Proposed translations

+3
1 hr
Selected

common and invincible error

este la fel si in franceza:
erreur commune et invincible

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-12-11 10:45:50 GMT)
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http://www.transilvaniarecuperaricreante.ro/2011/09/noul-cod...

definitie:

ART. 17 NOUL COD CIVIL – EROAREA COMUNA SI INVINCIBILA

(…) când cineva, împărtăşind o credinţă comună şi invincibilă, a considerat că o persoană are un anumit drept sau o anumită calitate juridică, instanţa judecătorească, ţinând seama de împrejurări, va putea hotărî că actul încheiat în această stare va produce, faţă de cel aflat în eroare, aceleaşi efecte ca şi când ar fi valabil, afară de cazul în care desfiinţarea lui nu i-ar cauza niciun prejudiciu.



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Note added at 891 days (2014-05-20 14:52:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Multumesc frumos (cu intarziere!)

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Note added at 891 days (2014-05-20 15:00:13 GMT) Post-grading
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Si totusi pentru alti colegi este: "common and invincible error. este un termen legal, vezi aici:

http://www.ipedr.com/vol17/55-CHHSS 2011-H10086.pdf

Si un context:

The principle of apparent validity in law is defined
in doctrine as being that “general principle according
to which each person who was entrusted with good faith
in an invincible judicial
appearance, publicly seen
as reality itself, it must be protected judicially” [1].
Generally speaking, the application field of the th
eory of appearance is li
mitless, jurisprudence and
doctrine making its application possible in many areas of expertise.
Therefore, in the area of appare
nt property, the literature speci
fic to the domain [2] notes that
“Appearance in law, as a means of gaining the right to
property and other real rights, is not established by the
legislative entity as a principle, but it can be applied as
an autonomous juridical figure, not only in regard to
the real estate law, but also regardin
g those particular cases, such as the
servitude right or the usufruct one,
where the supposed acquisition can be based on a common a
nd invincible error, along
with the good faith of
the beneficiary with an onerous title, who
receives this right according to the law”.
Peer comment(s):

agree Bogdan Burghelea
1 hr
Multumesc frumos!
agree Ioana Claudia Popa
18 hrs
Multumesc frumos, Ioana Claudia!
agree Cristina Crişan : sau mistake
20 hrs
Multumesc frumos, MCristy!
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