Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
TRAR (Technischer Registrierungsamtsrat)
English translation:
senior technical civil servant
Added to glossary by
Johannes Gleim
Aug 9, 2020 15:17
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German term
TRAR (Technischer Registrierungsamtrat)
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Military / Defense
Audit / test report
Dear All,
Does anyone have any ideas how I could translate this position (an official term for someone in the military) into the equivalent English term?
Thanks and regards,
Alison.
Does anyone have any ideas how I could translate this position (an official term for someone in the military) into the equivalent English term?
Thanks and regards,
Alison.
Proposed translations
(English)
5 +2 | senior technical civil servant | Johannes Gleim |
4 +1 | SEO (Defence Engineering and Science Group) / MOD Civil Service engineer | Lancashireman |
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Aug 10, 2020 20:25: Johannes Gleim Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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senior technical civil servant
Regierungsamtsrat (RAR) ist in Deutschland die Amtsbezeichnung eines Beamten im gehobenen Dienst in der Bundes- oder Landesverwaltung im dritten Beförderungsamt.
Die Position wird mit der Besoldungsgruppe A 12 nach der Bundesbesoldungsordnung des Bundesbesoldungsgesetzes alimentiert und entspricht somit besoldungsrechtlich einem Polizeihauptkommissar bzw. einem Hauptmann oder Kapitänleutnant der Bundeswehr.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungsamtsrat
senior civil servant Regierungsamtsrat {m}
https://www.dict.cc/?s=Regierungsamtsrat
senior civil servant – Regierungsamtsrat
https://www.joylandztravel.com/places-to-visit-in-braunschwe...
By reducing our fossil fuel consumption, we could therefore protect human lives and increase our troupes’ resilience,” reports Michael Schulz, senior technical civil servant in the German armed forces. “Solar containers provide us with a secure power supply, no matter where we are based.
https://www.pes.eu.com/renewable-news/german-armed-forces-pu...
After the cease of hostilities he took a post as senior technical civil servant in the design branch of the Directory of Building Components in the Ministry of Works. In this post he was technical representative on the following Committees: BSI Domestic Heating Standards, Appliances Standards, the Central Housing Advisory Committee, the Domestic Equipment and the Inter-Departmental Committee on the use of building materials.
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/architect_full.php?id=4...
Recently of Cranfield (a Ministry of Defence university), where he headed the Forensics group (teaching police and the military computer forensics, as well as gathering evidence in criminal cases on behalf of the police), he used to be a very senior technical civil servant, based in Cheltenham: he won't talk much about he pre-academic career, but I understand he was senior in one of the intelligence service
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1896437&pa...
Die Position wird mit der Besoldungsgruppe A 12 nach der Bundesbesoldungsordnung des Bundesbesoldungsgesetzes alimentiert und entspricht somit besoldungsrechtlich einem Polizeihauptkommissar bzw. einem Hauptmann oder Kapitänleutnant der Bundeswehr.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungsamtsrat
senior civil servant Regierungsamtsrat {m}
https://www.dict.cc/?s=Regierungsamtsrat
senior civil servant – Regierungsamtsrat
https://www.joylandztravel.com/places-to-visit-in-braunschwe...
By reducing our fossil fuel consumption, we could therefore protect human lives and increase our troupes’ resilience,” reports Michael Schulz, senior technical civil servant in the German armed forces. “Solar containers provide us with a secure power supply, no matter where we are based.
https://www.pes.eu.com/renewable-news/german-armed-forces-pu...
After the cease of hostilities he took a post as senior technical civil servant in the design branch of the Directory of Building Components in the Ministry of Works. In this post he was technical representative on the following Committees: BSI Domestic Heating Standards, Appliances Standards, the Central Housing Advisory Committee, the Domestic Equipment and the Inter-Departmental Committee on the use of building materials.
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/architect_full.php?id=4...
Recently of Cranfield (a Ministry of Defence university), where he headed the Forensics group (teaching police and the military computer forensics, as well as gathering evidence in criminal cases on behalf of the police), he used to be a very senior technical civil servant, based in Cheltenham: he won't talk much about he pre-academic career, but I understand he was senior in one of the intelligence service
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1896437&pa...
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Comment: "Thank you so much for your prompt and thorough responses! These have been a great help. Thanks to all for the sources, I didn't realise this query had already been submitted."
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11 hrs
SEO (Defence Engineering and Science Group) / MOD Civil Service engineer
Falscher Freund: technisch > technical
Technically, there is no objection to the use of 'technical' instead of 'engineering', except that it is found on translated websites and in chat rooms. A 'technical' civil servant is one who qualifies for the rank on a technicality.
SEO = Senior Executive Officer
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/grade-s...
Defence Engineering and Science Group
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/desg-graduate-sche...
MOD (Ministry of Defence) Civil Service engineer
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defe...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-08-10 10:38:32 GMT)
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Here's another possibility:
Chief Technology Officer (CTO) in the defence ministry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_technology_officer
CTO also has the merit of being an acknowledged EN acronym corresponding to the DE acronym TRAR.
Technically, there is no objection to the use of 'technical' instead of 'engineering', except that it is found on translated websites and in chat rooms. A 'technical' civil servant is one who qualifies for the rank on a technicality.
SEO = Senior Executive Officer
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/grade-s...
Defence Engineering and Science Group
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/desg-graduate-sche...
MOD (Ministry of Defence) Civil Service engineer
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defe...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-08-10 10:38:32 GMT)
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Here's another possibility:
Chief Technology Officer (CTO) in the defence ministry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_technology_officer
CTO also has the merit of being an acknowledged EN acronym corresponding to the DE acronym TRAR.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Kim Metzger
9 hrs
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Thanks. I think it must have been the OK-Trans vote that swung it.
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Discussion
https://www.google.com/search?q="civil service engineer"&oq=...
None from .de, .tr or .in sites
1929 Death of his father, a technical civil servant and officer in World War I.
https://www.hundertwasser-kalender.de/Hundertwasser/info/Bio...
DSİ employs 24,280 personnel, 11% of whom is other civil servant staff, 25% of whom is technical staff,
http://bilgi.dsi.gov.tr/dijital/water-and-dsi/files/assets/b...
Peter Hartwig
Technical Civil Servant, BAM Federal Institute for Materials Research and Testing, Safe Handling of Oxygen
https://de.linkedin.com/in/peter-hartwig-81609450
New Jersey Institute of Technology
:
As a former technical civil servant at EPA myself, I always hope for the best from a new leadership team ...
https://digitalcommons.njit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=...
Jonathan Ferguson, pilot and scientific civil servant, was born Irene Joy Ferguson on 30th October 1915, Wellington Street, Lurgan, Co Armagh, Ireland …
https://www.magnificentwomen.co.uk/engineer-of-the-week/cate...
March 1969 Funeral of Mr R.A. Heywood who had joined the Junior Civil Service soon after becoming a civil servant in 1914
http://studymore.org.uk/arce1968.htm
1 level below the TRAR
Regierungsamtmann (RA) ist in Deutschland die Amtsbezeichnung eines Beamten im gehobenen Dienst in der Bundes- oder Landesverwaltung im zweiten Beförderungsamt.
:
Die Position wird mit der Besoldungsgruppe A 11 nach der Bundesbesoldungsordnung des Bundesbesoldungsgesetzes alimentiert und entspricht somit besoldungsrechtlich einem Polizeihauptkommissar bzw. einem Hauptmann oder Kapitänleutnant der Bundeswehr.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierungsamtmann
Zusatzinformation:
Polizeioberkommissar (POK) ist eine Amtsbezeichnung von Polizeivollzugsbeamten bei der deutschen Polizei in der Laufbahn des gehobenen Polizeivollzugsdienstes …. Bei der Kriminalpolizei existiert das entsprechende Amt als Kriminaloberkommissar (KOK).
POK sind in die Besoldungsgruppe (BesGr) A 10 eingereiht. Es handelt sich um das erste Beförderungsamt in der Laufbahn des gehobenen Dienstes. Sie sind in allen Ländern Ermittlungsperson der Staatsanwaltschaft.
Die nächstniedrigere Amtsbezeichnung ist „Polizeikommissar“ (BesGr A 9), die nächsthöhere „Polizeihauptkommissar“ (BesGr A 11).
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeioberkommissar
There is a further abbreviation: "TRAmtm", but I can't find a definition for this. Can anyone help?
https://www.bundeswehrkarriere.de/blueprint/servlet/blob/141...
https://www.dienstzeitende.de/dze-magazin/unterschied-gehobe...
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