Jun 7, 2012 11:16
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down is too hard
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The quotation is from S. Greenblatt's "The Swerve":
'In one of his memorable satirical grotesques, Shakespeare’s contemporary Ben Jonson
perfectly depicted the spirit in which Epicurus’ philosophy was for long centuries widely understood. “I’ll have all my beds blown up, not stuffed,” Jonson’s character declares. “Down is too hard.”
(Greenblatt goes forth with Jonson's satire...)
My meat shall all come in in Indian shells,
Dishes of agate, set in gold, and studded,
With emeralds, sapphires, hyacinths, and rubies. . . .
My foot-boy shall eat pheasants, calvered salmons,
Knots, godwits, lampreys. I myself will have
The beards of barbels served instead of salads;
Oiled mushrooms; and the swelling unctuous paps
Of a fat pregnant sow, newly cut off,
Drest with an exquisite and poignant sauce;
For which, I’ll say unto my cook, “There’s gold,
Go forth and be a knight.”
The name Jonson gave to this mad pleasure seeker is Sir Epicure
Mammon...'
I'm not sure what I should make of "down is too hard." Is it that beds which are not blown up (apparently, these are stuffed ones) are down on the ground (which seems quite possible, thinking of Jonson's days at least, 16th or 17th century) and hence, hard?
'In one of his memorable satirical grotesques, Shakespeare’s contemporary Ben Jonson
perfectly depicted the spirit in which Epicurus’ philosophy was for long centuries widely understood. “I’ll have all my beds blown up, not stuffed,” Jonson’s character declares. “Down is too hard.”
(Greenblatt goes forth with Jonson's satire...)
My meat shall all come in in Indian shells,
Dishes of agate, set in gold, and studded,
With emeralds, sapphires, hyacinths, and rubies. . . .
My foot-boy shall eat pheasants, calvered salmons,
Knots, godwits, lampreys. I myself will have
The beards of barbels served instead of salads;
Oiled mushrooms; and the swelling unctuous paps
Of a fat pregnant sow, newly cut off,
Drest with an exquisite and poignant sauce;
For which, I’ll say unto my cook, “There’s gold,
Go forth and be a knight.”
The name Jonson gave to this mad pleasure seeker is Sir Epicure
Mammon...'
I'm not sure what I should make of "down is too hard." Is it that beds which are not blown up (apparently, these are stuffed ones) are down on the ground (which seems quite possible, thinking of Jonson's days at least, 16th or 17th century) and hence, hard?
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4 +7 | down = feathers | katsy |
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down = feathers
down is the small fluffy feathers that are used to stuff eiderdowns, duvets etc. They come from geese for example (or ducks )
So this just confirms what the character said previously.
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Note added at 7 mins (2012-06-07 11:23:34 GMT)
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The character wants beds 'stuffed' with air (blown up) rather than ones which are stuffed with feathers (down)
So this just confirms what the character said previously.
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Note added at 7 mins (2012-06-07 11:23:34 GMT)
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The character wants beds 'stuffed' with air (blown up) rather than ones which are stuffed with feathers (down)
Peer comment(s):
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Charles Davis
: You're all too quick for me today!
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thanks Charles :-) puff, puff.... this will probably be my only exploit of the day!
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airmailrpl
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thanks airmailrpl :-)
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Jack Doughty
: Your answer was not visible when I posted mine.
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thanks Jack :-) even when you refresh, (I speak from experience) possible earlier answers don't always come up!
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B D Finch
: Only the richest people would have had down beds, most matresses would have been stuffed with straw or horse-hair, and down (not feathers) is as soft as is imaginable. I think there is also a play on words: blown up and down.
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thanks BD :-) You are right to point out that down is not any old feather - just the little tiny ones with no 'hard bits'; and I hadn't noticed the 'up' and 'down'... I agree with your idea!
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Sarah Bessioud
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thanks Jeux de Mots :-)
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Armorel Young
2 hrs
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thanks Armorel :-)
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jccantrell
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thanks jc :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "cheers, katsy!"
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