Oct 30, 2022 17:19
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(The) UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences
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Hi!!
Should/would "the", as definite article, be used in all the instances below? Are there exceptions? Would it be optional?
Which would be correct?:
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym, which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
Thank you very much for your time!!
Should/would "the", as definite article, be used in all the instances below? Are there exceptions? Would it be optional?
Which would be correct?:
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym, which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
Thank you very much for your time!!
Responses
| 3 | UCLA's department of physical sciences |
Helena Chavarria
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| 4 +1 | the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences |
Jennifer Levey
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20 mins
Helena Chavarria
Spain
Spain
Native in English
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English
Works in field
Spain
Striving for excellence
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
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UCLA's department of physical sciences
Which would be correct?:
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
I would use the second option, as it refers to a specific university. For example, Oxford University is near London. She studied at the University of Oxford.
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym, which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
I would use the first option as UCLA is an acronym and is treated like a proper noun.
Four of UCLA’s professional programs offer their own specialized application processes.
https://www.ucla.edu/admission/graduate-admission
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
I wouldn't use either option. I would probably write the Department of Physical Sciences at the Universidad da Coruña.
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I've just done some research and for your second question, I've changed my mind! I think the Department of Physical Sciences at UCLA sounds better, though it depends on the context of course.
Dr. Jackson Smith is a Chancellor’s Postdoctoral Fellow with the Ralph J. Bunche Center for African American Studies and the Department of History at UCLA.
https://history.ucla.edu/
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
I would use the second option, as it refers to a specific university. For example, Oxford University is near London. She studied at the University of Oxford.
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym, which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
I would use the first option as UCLA is an acronym and is treated like a proper noun.
Four of UCLA’s professional programs offer their own specialized application processes.
https://www.ucla.edu/admission/graduate-admission
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
I wouldn't use either option. I would probably write the Department of Physical Sciences at the Universidad da Coruña.
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Note added at 29 mins (2022-10-30 17:48:58 GMT)
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I've just done some research and for your second question, I've changed my mind! I think the Department of Physical Sciences at UCLA sounds better, though it depends on the context of course.
Dr. Jackson Smith is a Chancellor’s Postdoctoral Fellow with the Ralph J. Bunche Center for African American Studies and the Department of History at UCLA.
https://history.ucla.edu/
Note from asker:
| Thank you for answering!! Let's say, though, that, for the last instance, I had: - Universidade da Coruña is located in (...); or - The Universidade da Coruña is located in (...). If you had to choose between the two, which would you take? |
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
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English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences
The following assumes this is intended to be formal written text, as befits an academic institution.
The main problem with ALL the sample texts is not the use of the - it's the construction of the possessives using the apostrophe 's.
Which would be correct?:
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
Both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences at/of the University of California"
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym (sic), which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
Again, both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences of/at UCLA"
although
"the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences"
is also acceptable (without the possessive 's).
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
Both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences at/of the Universidade da Coruña".
In this case, the definite article 'the' is required, and the possessive 's cannot be suffixed to the name of any institution which is not written in English.
The main problem with ALL the sample texts is not the use of the - it's the construction of the possessives using the apostrophe 's.
Which would be correct?:
- (...) for University of California's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the University of California's Department of Physical Sciences.
Both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences at/of the University of California"
Adding another layer to it, if we're using an accronym (sic), which would be correct?:
- (...) for UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the UCLA's Department of Physical Sciences.
Again, both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences of/at UCLA"
although
"the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences"
is also acceptable (without the possessive 's).
Adding yet another layer to it, if we're using the name of an (educational) institution from a different country, which would be correct?:
- (...) for Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences; or,
- (...) for the Universidade da Coruña's Department of Physical Sciences.
Both are better-rendered as:
"the Department of Physical Sciences at/of the Universidade da Coruña".
In this case, the definite article 'the' is required, and the possessive 's cannot be suffixed to the name of any institution which is not written in English.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much! |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: Yup. the xxx (name of university) department of xxx, or school of law, medicine etc. in that particular context
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Reference comments
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Reference:
Backing Jennifer's answer
The Henry “Hank” Weiss Memorial Climate Education Eventhttps://www.ioes.ucla.edu › project › the-henry-hank-w...
... and a matching fund furnished by the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences. Additional support is being sought to increase the frequency of the event.
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Videos - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › videos
UCLA "Department of Physical Sciences" from www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu
An introduction to the Department of Physical Sciences from seven faculty, students, and staff.
COVID-19 Updates - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › covid-19-updates
The Department of Physical Sciences is working to provide faculty, students, and families with the most up to date COVID-19 updates during this time of .
... and a matching fund furnished by the UCLA Department of Physical Sciences. Additional support is being sought to increase the frequency of the event.
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Note added at 16 days (2022-11-16 10:27:08 GMT) Post-grading
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Videos - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › videos
UCLA "Department of Physical Sciences" from www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu
An introduction to the Department of Physical Sciences from seven faculty, students, and staff.
COVID-19 Updates - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › covid-19-updates
The Department of Physical Sciences is working to provide faculty, students, and families with the most up to date COVID-19 updates during this time of .
Discussion
Yes, definitely funny
Videos - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › videos
UCLA "Department of Physical Sciences" from www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu
An introduction to the Department of Physical Sciences from seven faculty, students, and staff.
COVID-19 Updates - UCLA Physical Scienceshttps://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu › covid-19-updates
The Department of Physical Sciences is working to provide faculty, students, and families with the most up to date COVID-19 updates during this time of .
But more importantly here, I don't think there is a "department of physical sciences" at UCLA // Could be DIVISION of physical sciences
Thank you very much!
- Universidade da Coruña is located in (...); or
- The Universidade da Coruña is located in (...).
If you had to choose between the two, which would you take?