Dec 10, 2019 18:00
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English term
Decree of Declarator
English to French
Law/Patents
Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs
Scottish marriage certificate
Hello,
This is from Column 6 of an Entry from the Register of Marriages in Scotland:
If a regular marriage, signature and designation of officiating
minister or registrar and signatures and addresses of witnesses
If an irregular marriage, date of Decree of Declarator, or of
Sheriff's warrant
I know that "Declarator" has a specific meaning in Scottish law:
Declarator An order declaring that some right exists or does not exist which has legal consequence.
Decree The common term for a final judgment.
http://www.scotland-judiciary.org.uk/29/0/Glossary/a#D
Lastly, here's how https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/article/irregular-marriag... describes both types of marriages:
Until the mid-twentieth century most people in Scotland were married by a minister, in a 'regular' marriage. This involved banns being read on three consecutive Sundays at the parish church. However, a minority were wed by 'irregular' marriage, in which a man and a woman made a declaration in front of two witnesses, hence the other name ‘marriage by declaration’. By showing proofs of their marriage the parties could obtain a warrant of a sheriff or sheriff substitute to have the marriage registered by the local registrar. Churches disagreed with these marriages in principle, but accepted them for fear that couples would otherwise 'live in sin'.
Any ideas on how to translate Decreeof Declarator?
Many thanks.
This is from Column 6 of an Entry from the Register of Marriages in Scotland:
If a regular marriage, signature and designation of officiating
minister or registrar and signatures and addresses of witnesses
If an irregular marriage, date of Decree of Declarator, or of
Sheriff's warrant
I know that "Declarator" has a specific meaning in Scottish law:
Declarator An order declaring that some right exists or does not exist which has legal consequence.
Decree The common term for a final judgment.
http://www.scotland-judiciary.org.uk/29/0/Glossary/a#D
Lastly, here's how https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/article/irregular-marriag... describes both types of marriages:
Until the mid-twentieth century most people in Scotland were married by a minister, in a 'regular' marriage. This involved banns being read on three consecutive Sundays at the parish church. However, a minority were wed by 'irregular' marriage, in which a man and a woman made a declaration in front of two witnesses, hence the other name ‘marriage by declaration’. By showing proofs of their marriage the parties could obtain a warrant of a sheriff or sheriff substitute to have the marriage registered by the local registrar. Churches disagreed with these marriages in principle, but accepted them for fear that couples would otherwise 'live in sin'.
Any ideas on how to translate Decreeof Declarator?
Many thanks.
Proposed translations
(French)
3 +2 | jugement déclaratif | Michael Confais (X) |
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Dec 10, 2019 18:13: Carol Gullidge changed "Language pair" from "English to French" to "French to English"
Dec 10, 2019 18:13: Carol Gullidge changed "Language pair" from "French to English" to "English to French"
Proposed translations
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jugement déclaratif
Hello Idna,
"Jugement déclaratif :
décision judiciaire qui constate une situation ou un droit préexistant. Il consolide les droits des plaideurs et ses effets remontent logiquement au jour de l'exploit d'ajournement."
https://www.droit.fr/definition/2182-jugement-declaratif/
"jugement déclaratif de mariage"
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_deDE846DE846&biw=1...
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Note added at 14 hrs (2019-12-11 08:55:22 GMT)
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"[Documents à fournir :]
à défaut d’acte de mariage : un jugement déclaratif de mariage qui a été transcrit dans les registres de l’état civil"
(near bottom of 1st page)
https://www.ibz.rrn.fgov.be/fileadmin/user_upload/fr/rn/inst...
Peer comment(s):
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Ph_B (X)
: C'est possible - mais garder aussi l'original, ama.
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Merci, Ph_B !
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Germaine
: Au Québec et en France, on emploi aussi "jugement déclaratoire" dans le même sens.
2 days 9 hrs
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Comment: "Thank you Michael for your answer and the various links! This is perfect for my context. "
Discussion
invalid<p>><p>« quand une partie demande un jugement déclaratif qui reconnaît le mariage comme valable ou au contraire qui
déclare qu'il ne l'est pas. »<p>( https://assets.hcch.net/docs/af508de1-0674-4689-b127-cde2280... )