Mar 22, 2020 21:55
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English term

deep state

GBK English to Dutch Social Sciences Government / Politics
Definition from Merriam-Webster:
An alleged secret network of especially nonelected government officials and sometimes private entities (as in the financial services and defense industries) operating extralegally to influence and enact government policy.
Example sentences:
It is Trump himself, under the camouflage of populist rhetoric, who has overseen the open expansion of the deep state: entrenched interests gaining outsize influence and setting their own policy agenda, unchecked by the will of the people, their elected representatives or the civil servants meant to regulate them. (The Washington Post)
“They take detailees, not the best from these agencies, often the worst, they stick them into the White House,” he concluded. “It's a practice that frankly should end, and the political appointees, Tim Morrison and [Kurt] Volker aren't mistaking themselves for the president, it's these Deep State bureaucrats that do.” (Christian Whiton)
Proposed translations (Dutch)
4 +2 deep state
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Discussion

DJ Raats Feb 20, 2020:
Pointless exercise I have recently been receiving similar translation requests which I all find fairly pointless. This term is specific to the United States & primarily conspiracy-minded right wing folk. I doubt any serious translator to Dutch would seriously consider this warrants an official translation. Precisely this same point pertains to many of the other terms offered for translation

Proposed translations

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deep state

Definition from NPO:
"Een onzichtbare maar invloedrijke elite"
Example sentences:
"Er is echt geen deep state van professionals die op Trumps hoofd uit zijn." (NRC)
"Het lijken van die brave juristen, die mannen van de FBI en het ministerie van Justitie, maar ondertussen vormen ze een deep state." (De Morgen)
"De presidentiële raad is belangrijk, maar er wacht ons een andere grote taak en dat is om de deep state, de onzichtbare en invloedrijke elite van het vorige bewind, te ontmantelen." (Parool)
Peer comment(s):

agree Lars Derks
7 days
agree Machiel van Veen (X)
30 days
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