Dutch term
baccalaureus (bc)
Ik denk dat het vertaald moet worden als Bachelor, maar mijn vraag is eigenlijk of het bc blijft in het Engels of BsC of iets dergelijks. Het betreft een HBO-diploma in voeding en dietetiek
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Chris Hopley
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Proposed translations
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Dutch & German to English
Native in: English (Variants: Australian, Canadian, New Zealand, British, UK, Irish, US)
Works in: German to English, Dutch to English, Flemish to English, and 1 more.
'baccalaureus (bc) or Bachelor (B.)'
See:
-> "hbo-bachelor
oud: na 4 jaar baccalaureus (bc.) of ingenieur (ing.) of Bachelor, evt. gevolgd door vakgebied
nieuw: na studielast 240 ECTS* Bachelor (B) gevolgd door vakgebied, maar geen "Science" of "Arts" of bc./ing. 1) "
http://www.nvao.net/veelgestelde-vragen/nederland/112
See also: http://eacea.ec.europa.eu/ressources/eurydice/eurybase/pdf_i...
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@Textpertise: my point is that the law unambiguosly stipulates that someone with a HBO bachelor's degree is entitled to use the letters bc after their name, or - for the sake of international comparability - the letter B. + a descriptor that identifies the field of study. So you might choose to translate Asker's sample sentence as "Under this provision, the person is entitled to use the title of baccalaureus (bc) or Bachelor (B.)." That's the entitlement. I am not recommending that the person in question should use bc in English-speaking contexts.
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@Textpertise: why do you assume the person in question is seeking to practice in the UK?
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Even if the person in question - as Textpertise has assumed - is seeking to practice in the UK, it would be up to the UK authorities to assess the person's overseas qualification. To do this, they need to know the name of the overseas qualification so they can evaluate it properly. What's completely unhelpful in this credential evaluation process is having a translator make up an equivalent UK qualification for you. Please read further at http://www.nuffic.nl/nederlandse-studenten/voorbereiding/dip... and http://www.europeopen.org.uk/index.asp?page=10 for example.
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jarry (X)
: As in French: baccalauréat
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Textpertise
: Disagree that abbreviation bc is appropriate in English. The nearest meaning of BC is Bachelor of Commerce which is not intended here. Using bc in an English translation will not be understood & is not a qualification to practise in the UK. Use footnote.
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I'm not saying that bc should be used in English. Someone with a HBO bachelor is entitled to use the letters bc or B. [+ field descriptor]. Please click through to my references. The law is quite specific. // See my additions
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L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
: agree with tetpertise. The Dutch law is not in question here. The question is how to translate baccalaureus (bc). There is no such thing in English for bc as meaning baccalaureus (latin)
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writeaway
: thanks Chris. agree with your explanation too.
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Under BSc you get various options such as Eng (Enigineering), LS (Landsurveyor) etc Hope this help.
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To answer your question, I would think that BSc (Dietician) might be appropriate
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Textpertise
: Most degree courses for Dietician in UK are BSc (Honours) Dietetics or BSc (Honours) Nutrition and Dietetics. See http://www.bda.uk.com/edqualify.html Suggest you use the Dutch abbreviation with a footnote indicating how many years the "opleiding" is.
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Buck
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Chris Hopley
: Dutch law specifically prohibits the use of BA and BSc for HBO bachelor's degrees. See refs. in my post.
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see note at your suggestion
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