Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Pub -watch- out of one, out of them all
Spanish translation:
Pub Watch: expulsado de uno, expulsado de todos
Added to glossary by
Antonio Berbel Garcia
Feb 4 20:23
3 mos ago
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English term
Pub -watch- out of one, out of them all
English to Spanish
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
The expat influence was immediately apparent. The hairdresser’s had a large handwritten sign in the window: WE SPEAK ENGLISH. Further along the street was a fish and chip shop and a UK “supermarket”, shelves stacked with British imports: Marmite, packets of Bisto, pots of curry sauce. Next door to that was the pub Danny sought.
The sign of the Rose and Crown hung above the main door, its paint blistered and faded by the sun. It looked as if it might have been imported from England. Danny paused to read a sheet of A4 tacked to the glass of the front door: Pub- watch - out of one, out of them all. He’d seen a similar poster in the window of the fish and chip shop. Another triumphant British import.
The sign of the Rose and Crown hung above the main door, its paint blistered and faded by the sun. It looked as if it might have been imported from England. Danny paused to read a sheet of A4 tacked to the glass of the front door: Pub- watch - out of one, out of them all. He’d seen a similar poster in the window of the fish and chip shop. Another triumphant British import.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | Pub Watch: expulsado de uno, expulsado de todos |
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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| 3 +2 | [Si los de] Pub Watch[:] te echan de uno, te echan de todos |
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Proposed translations
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Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
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Golf, Literature and Religion Specialist
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish
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Pub Watch: expulsado de uno, expulsado de todos
Tras las estupendas referencias de Tomasso, hay que buscar la fórmula equivalente en español.
Al tratarse de un cartel, la traducción no debe ser explicativa, sino telegráfica como el original, por ejemplo:
- Pub Watch: expulsión de uno, expulsión de todos.
- Pub Watch: fuera de uno, fuera de todos.
- Pub Watch: expulsado de uno, expulsado de todos.
- Pub Watch: a la calle en uno, a la calle en todos.
Al tratarse de un cartel, la traducción no debe ser explicativa, sino telegráfica como el original, por ejemplo:
- Pub Watch: expulsión de uno, expulsión de todos.
- Pub Watch: fuera de uno, fuera de todos.
- Pub Watch: expulsado de uno, expulsado de todos.
- Pub Watch: a la calle en uno, a la calle en todos.
Peer comment(s):
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O G V
: aceptable, pero "expulsado" lleva marca de género. No veo por qué un cartel no puede empezar con "Si te...". Saludos. OGV.
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Por supuesto que puede, pero en este contexto concreto me parece preferible reproducir el tono telegráfico de la fórmula original. Saludos de vuelta.
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Alan Otero
: Me gustan las opciones. Particularmente la segunda y la tercera. Entiendo que en un sitio así poco importaría la marca de género, así que no estoy de acuerdo con OGV en ese detalle.
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Gracias, Alan, tiendo a pensar como tú, pero sería interesante saber cuándo y dónde transcurre la acción del relato.
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Comment: "Gracias a todos. En el libro, Scarecrow, de Matthew Pritchard, aparece con guión. Pub-watch "
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[Si los de] Pub Watch[:] te echan de uno, te echan de todos
Con la explicación de Tomasso como base...
Si los de Pub Watch te echan de uno, te echan de todos
Pub Watch: te echan de uno, te echan de todos
Si en Pub Watch...
Si Pub Watch...
Algunas adaptaciones.
Suerte
Si los de Pub Watch te echan de uno, te echan de todos
Pub Watch: te echan de uno, te echan de todos
Si en Pub Watch...
Si Pub Watch...
Algunas adaptaciones.
Suerte
Peer comment(s):
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Toni Castano
: Correcto: Matthew Pritchard, Scarecrow (= The Hour of the Puppeteer). La tuya es una entre varias opciones posibles (pero no entiendo cómo puede haber un guión de separación en el original entre Pub y Watch). Lo correcto es "Pubwatch".
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Agradecido, Toni. No reparé en ese detalle y lo puse como aparecía en el comentario de Tomasso. Saludos. OGV.
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Alan Otero
: Me gusta. Pero sin las aclaraciones entre corchetes, excepto por los dos puntos.
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Reference comments
16 mins
Reference:
Pub Watch
What is National Pubwatch?
National Pubwatch is an entirely voluntary organisation set up to support existing Pubwatches and encourage the creation of new schemes with the key aim of achieving a safe, secure and responsibly led social drinking environment in all licensed premises throughout the UK, helping to reduce alcohol-related crime. We do not manage or accredit local schemes.
We work hard to maintain the integrity of Pubwatch and have developed a good working relationship with the Home Office and NPCC and are regularly consulted on issues that may affect local schemes. We frequently work with government agencies and other organisations to address specific pub related problems that will improve safety.
Nunca he visto antes, alli dice...
We are entirely funded by the pub trade and provide our services free of charge. We provide advice and guidance though our website, newsletters, annual conference, Pubwatch awards and good practice guide. Our Committee members and regional representatives have a wealth of practical experience of working with Pubwatch schemes and are committed to helping local Pubwatch members and their supporters.
In the case of a Members Club they may actually have a problem in joining a watch as membership gives them certain rights in relation to the premises. Normally members of such clubs cannot be refused access or service unless they have breached the clubs rules which means that if they are banned by the Pubwatch for an incident at premises other than the club the ban would not be enforceable by the club unless there rules allowed for this. Having said that we do know that many Members Clubs seem to be able to accommodate this issue within their working practices and benefit from Pubwatch membership.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubWatch https://www.nationalpubwatch.org.uk/faq/#:~:text=problem wou...
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“La Carretera Te Pide Sin , hay programas ligadas parece a PubWatch en EU, https://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_determinants/life_style/alcoh... Cerveceros de España
“Information Awareness Campaign” · 2007 - ongoing
Includes a guide for parents to help prevent children from drinking alcohol, and a poster and
DVD for the Parents Associations (AMPAS) together with the Defender of Minors, with whom the
Association partnered to run this initiative.
“Los Padres Tienen La Palabra” (“Parents Have the Word”) · 2004 - ongoing 38
A guide which aims to help parents to make responsible decisions about alcohol. It helps
them tackle diffi cult situations such as excessive consumption. The author of the guide is Mrs.
Petra María Pérez, professor of Education of the University of Valencia. The campaign is run in
cooperation with the Ministry of Agriculture, National Catholic Federation of Family Parents
(CONCAPA) and Spanish Confederation of Associations of Parents of Pupils (CEAPA). In 2007, a
DVD will be prepared which will include the guide and an explanatory presentation by its author.
It is intended to distribute the guide to the highest possible number of schools.
“Un Dedo De Espuma, Dos Dedos De Frente” (“A Thick Head On Your Beer But Not
On Your Shoulders”) · 1999 - updated 2006 - ongoing
National Pubwatch is an entirely voluntary organisation set up to support existing Pubwatches and encourage the creation of new schemes with the key aim of achieving a safe, secure and responsibly led social drinking environment in all licensed premises throughout the UK, helping to reduce alcohol-related crime. We do not manage or accredit local schemes.
We work hard to maintain the integrity of Pubwatch and have developed a good working relationship with the Home Office and NPCC and are regularly consulted on issues that may affect local schemes. We frequently work with government agencies and other organisations to address specific pub related problems that will improve safety.
Nunca he visto antes, alli dice...
We are entirely funded by the pub trade and provide our services free of charge. We provide advice and guidance though our website, newsletters, annual conference, Pubwatch awards and good practice guide. Our Committee members and regional representatives have a wealth of practical experience of working with Pubwatch schemes and are committed to helping local Pubwatch members and their supporters.
In the case of a Members Club they may actually have a problem in joining a watch as membership gives them certain rights in relation to the premises. Normally members of such clubs cannot be refused access or service unless they have breached the clubs rules which means that if they are banned by the Pubwatch for an incident at premises other than the club the ban would not be enforceable by the club unless there rules allowed for this. Having said that we do know that many Members Clubs seem to be able to accommodate this issue within their working practices and benefit from Pubwatch membership.
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Note added at 28 mins (2024-02-04 20:51:40 GMT)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubWatch https://www.nationalpubwatch.org.uk/faq/#:~:text=problem wou...
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Note added at 40 mins (2024-02-04 21:03:47 GMT)
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“La Carretera Te Pide Sin , hay programas ligadas parece a PubWatch en EU, https://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_determinants/life_style/alcoh... Cerveceros de España
“Information Awareness Campaign” · 2007 - ongoing
Includes a guide for parents to help prevent children from drinking alcohol, and a poster and
DVD for the Parents Associations (AMPAS) together with the Defender of Minors, with whom the
Association partnered to run this initiative.
“Los Padres Tienen La Palabra” (“Parents Have the Word”) · 2004 - ongoing 38
A guide which aims to help parents to make responsible decisions about alcohol. It helps
them tackle diffi cult situations such as excessive consumption. The author of the guide is Mrs.
Petra María Pérez, professor of Education of the University of Valencia. The campaign is run in
cooperation with the Ministry of Agriculture, National Catholic Federation of Family Parents
(CONCAPA) and Spanish Confederation of Associations of Parents of Pupils (CEAPA). In 2007, a
DVD will be prepared which will include the guide and an explanatory presentation by its author.
It is intended to distribute the guide to the highest possible number of schools.
“Un Dedo De Espuma, Dos Dedos De Frente” (“A Thick Head On Your Beer But Not
On Your Shoulders”) · 1999 - updated 2006 - ongoing
Reference:
Note from asker:
| En el libro aparece Pub - watch |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Toni Castano
: Certainly "Pubwatch", not "Pub -watch": https://www.nationalpubwatch.org.uk/faq/#:~:text=National Pu...
1 hr
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| agree |
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
1 hr
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| agree |
Alan Otero
22 hrs
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