Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

tracolla a mano

English translation:

Wristlet (Wristlet Strap)

Added to glossary by Lara Barnett
Nov 18, 2023 13:11
6 mos ago
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Italian term

tracolla a mano

Italian to English Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
Can anyone help with the phrase "tracolla a mano" in the description of a clutch bag: "Busta in maglia con tracolla a mano". It's in a simple listing of catalogue articles, so no other context I'm afraid. I'm confused as I thought "tracolla" was "shoulder strap", so I'm not sure how the "mano" comes in! Thanks in advance for your guidance.
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Nov 20, 2023 15:19: Lara Barnett Created KOG entry

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Discussion

Inter-Tra Nov 20, 2023:
di solito borsa o a tracolla, o a mano :-))
Sarah Gregg (asker) Nov 19, 2023:
Yes I absolutely agree with you, an illustration is essential. I have actually already requested this from the client, but not sure if it will be forthcoming. Fingers crossed.
Lara Barnett Nov 18, 2023:
@ Sarah Janice has a good point in that you really need a photo or image. If it was me I would tell the client that they absolutely need to provide a photo, otherwise they won't receive the target text back until it is provided.!
Janice Giffin Nov 18, 2023:
tracolla a mano Not fair that you don't have a photo to guide you. Wristlet is fine if you intend to carry the clutch close to your hand; however, many clutch bags have a short shoulder strap so that the bag can be carried between the upper arm and the side of the body.

Proposed translations

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Wristlet (Wristlet Strap)

This seems to be used with either with or without "strap".

I think "colla" might refer to the fixing on of the strap to the bag and wrist (colla= like glue), rather than to the upper "collo" area of the body.

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... that is to say that the term is describing the fixing on of a small purse to your arm/wrist (so forget any similar sound reference to the neck area). See here:

"Lucy Medium L-Zip WRISTLET"
https://www.katespade.co.uk/products/lucy-medium-l-zip-wrist...
Example sentence:

"Small multi-pocket cross body clutch bag with WRISTLET - black."

"Add a detachable WRISTLET STRAP to any bag you already have. Do you have your hands full but want to prevent your clutch from falling? One simple solution: check out this wristlet strap tutorial."

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'm going for this, but if I manage to obtain a photo and it turns out to be something else, I'll come back and modify. Thanks to everyone."
20 mins

hand strap

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225721960854


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also wrist strap/wristlet

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https://www.2moda.com/blogs/blog/clutch-vs-wristlet-what-s-t...
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37 mins

short shoulder strap

Really one where you need a photo to be sure, or ask the client but on this site they say the bag can be carried "over your shoulder, linked through your arm, or gracefully carried in your hand. " thanks to its short shoulder strap
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway
1 hr
neutral philgoddard : But then surely they'd say "tracolla corta".
4 hrs
ah, the way os the Lord are mysterious, but those in the fashion marketing copy businesss are mysterious-er!
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1 hr

over the shoulder or by hand

I believe the correct phrase is "tracolla o mano"
the letter "o" is missing!

It can be worn over the shoulder or as a handbage.

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I mean "handbag" - sorry for the typing mistakes:)
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2 hrs

shoulder strap/crossbody strap with carry handle

A bag with both a shoulder strap and a carry handle.
Google images: “tracolla a mano”

“With a carry handle and a shoulder strap, you can use this messenger bag like a soft briefcase, or sling it over your shoulder.”
https://capellisport.com/products/select-large-messenger-bag...

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Purse with Shoulder Strap & Carry Handle
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225091094878

Bag with Carry Handle and Cross Body Shoulder Strap
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394585262111
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4 hrs

clutch bag with shoulderstrap

I wonder if the word order is wrong and it should read "busta a mano in maglia con tracolla".

This type of grammatical error, where the most important qualifier (it's a HANDbag) is shifted to later in the sentence, is common in English and other languages.

Often we don't even notice it - we just mentally rearrange the words so that they make sense.
Peer comment(s):

agree Barbara Carrara : I agree - the (hand-held) knitted clutch comes with a shoulder strap. A picture would definitely help, though.
26 mins
agree Andrew Bramhall : Most likely;
3 hrs
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23 hrs

short handle

o mi sfugge qualcosa?

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Note added at 23 hrs (2023-11-19 13:06:31 GMT)
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Probabilmente Phil ha ragione.
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