Aug 29, 2023 11:17
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reverend Geologists
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Creationism
Many ***reverend Geologists***, however, would evince their reverence for the divine Revelation by making a distinction between its "historical" and its "moral" portions; and maintaining, that the latter only is inspired and absolute Truth; but that the former is not so; and therefore is open to any latitude of philosophic and scientific interpretation, modification or denial! ... What the consequences of such things must be to a revelation-possessing land, time will rapidly and awfully unfold in its opening pages of national skepticism, infidelity, and apostasy, and of God’s righteous vengeance on the same!
Is the author saying that these geologists were both scientists and clergymen, or does he mean here that they were worthy of reverence?
Is the author saying that these geologists were both scientists and clergymen, or does he mean here that they were worthy of reverence?
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4 +2 | clergymen geologists | Yvonne Gallagher |
5 +2 | "reverend" Geologists | Mark Robertson |
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clergymen geologists
not a typos it seems. There were clergymen who were also geologists
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0812009060107530...
https://www.lyellcollection.org/doi/abs/10.1144/sp310.20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Buckland
https://books.google.ie/books?id=tv5eAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR9&lpg=PR9...
Note that even if not scientists, clergymen could be seen as "delving" into scriptures and "unearthing " stuff, like geologists.
There were also some problems with those who believed the literal Bible as geology proved otherwise, e.g. the creation needed to tbe pushed MUCH further back in time
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Henry_Close
https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-...
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Teilhard de Chardin: evolutio...
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/301663
https://www.geolsoc.org.uk/SP310
https://www.churchsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Cma...
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Glad to have helped
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0812009060107530...
https://www.lyellcollection.org/doi/abs/10.1144/sp310.20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Buckland
https://books.google.ie/books?id=tv5eAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR9&lpg=PR9...
Note that even if not scientists, clergymen could be seen as "delving" into scriptures and "unearthing " stuff, like geologists.
There were also some problems with those who believed the literal Bible as geology proved otherwise, e.g. the creation needed to tbe pushed MUCH further back in time
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Note added at 3 hrs (2023-08-29 14:58:01 GMT)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Henry_Close
https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-...
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Teilhard de Chardin: evolutio...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2023-08-29 15:02:19 GMT)
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/301663
https://www.geolsoc.org.uk/SP310
https://www.churchsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Cma...
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Note added at 8 days (2023-09-07 09:32:08 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped
Peer comment(s):
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Christopher Schröder
: Would be my reading of it
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Many thanks:-)
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AllegroTrans
: Most probably correct but Asker would do well to look at what precedes this to see if clergymen have already been mentioned; certainly, many Anglican clergymen, especially in England, engaged in all manner of exploratory pursuits in the 19th century
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Many thanks:-)// Quite a few! I was surprised. And not just in the 19th century or in England either
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you all!"
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"reverend" Geologists
See my discussion entries.
Peer comment(s):
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Oliver Simões
: Well done. For some reason, I could sense sarcasm in the way the context was worded. The quote about the "scriptural geologists" was perfect. It sounds like they're just geologists who spouse creationism & are desperate that their dogmas might fall apart.
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Thanks. In the 1830s, geology was in its infancy, but some geologists, i.e. those attacked in the source text, thought that where geology and the bible conflict, then the bible must be interpreted to fit geology, and not the other way round.
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Clauwolf
: right
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Obrigado Clau
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Discussion
My home city, Edinburgh, was at the heart of the movement:
"Edinburgh in particular came in for praise from international scholars with Thomas Jefferson noting, “So far as science is concerned, no place in the world can pretend to competition with Edinburgh.” Benjamin Franklin in turn asserted that “the University of Edinburgh possessed a set of truly great men, Professors of Several Branches of Knowledge, as have ever appeared in any age or country.” Franklin, a true polymath, corresponded regularly with James Watt of steam engine fame. For his part, Voltaire recognised the contribution of the Scots of his era commenting, “we look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.”
I lived near the famous Agassiz Rock, which has an important place in the history of geology, as this was where the visiting Swiss geologist Louis Agassiz proclaimed, in 1840, that scratches and rock moulding was “the work of an ice sheet”. The first ever reference to glacial erosion.
https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?ar...
"Secondly, several of the early 19th century scriptural geologists expressed their concerns that if the early chapters of Genesis were rejected as literal accurate history it would only be a matter of time before other parts of the Bible would be rejected as well, leading inevitably to the spiritual decline of the church and the moral decay of society. One scriptural geologist put it this way in 1834:
‘Many reverend Geologists, however, would evince their reverence for the divine Revelation by making a distinction between its historical and its moral portions; and maintaining, that the latter only is inspired and absolute Truth; but that the former is not so; and therefore is open to any latitude of philosophic and scientific interpretation, modification or denial! … What the consequences of such things must be to a revelation-possessing land, time will rapidly and awfully unfold in its opening pages of national scepticism, infidelity, and apostacy [sic], and of God’ righteous vengeance on the same!"
The quote is from a book entitled "Popular Geology Subversive to Divine Revelation", by H. Cole, published in 1834.
"(...) time will rapidly and awfully unfold in its opening pages of national skepticism, infidelity, and apostasy, and of God’s righteous vengeance on the same!"
As the saying goes: "Torquemada this, Torquemada that, you can't torquehimoudda anything!"
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide-English-Clergy-Adventur...
PS: A couple of things caught my eye. The capitalization of "geologists" and the likelihood that the word is not being used in a literal, but figurative, sense to mean"scientists" or "evolutionists". "Revered" might also be a form of sarcasm.
Geology: the study of the rocks and physical processes of the earth in order to understand its origin and history. (Cambridge Dictionary)