Aug 24, 2023 10:05
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Spanish term

protocolo (in this context)

Non-PRO Spanish to English Bus/Financial Law: Taxation & Customs
Taken from the title of a tax agreement between Spain and Iceland:

“Convenio entre el Reino de España y la República de Islandia para evitar la doble imposición y prevenir la evasión fiscal en materia de impuestos sobre la renta y sobre el patrimonio y protocolo, hecho en Madrid el 22 de enero de 2002"
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 Protocol
3 -1 code of professional conduct
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Aug 24, 2023 18:06: AllegroTrans changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): abe(L)solano, philgoddard, AllegroTrans

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Discussion

Taña Dalglish Aug 24, 2023:
The exact Convention and Protocol (see page 21) https://www.hacienda.gob.es/Documentacion/Publico/NormativaD...
@Adrian MM. Having been with the UN for almost 20 years, the words "Convention" and "Protocol" often feature in many UN documents. Despite your comment, they are not "international agreements" or "treaties." Examples: Conventions and Protocols, e.g. The Cartagena Convention and its Protocols (Environment-related) are often spoken about and there are countless references to back this up.
Toni Castano Aug 24, 2023:
Protocol annexed thereto See this reference:
https://sede.agenciatributaria.gob.es/Sede/en_gb/normativa-c...

Proposed translations

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1 day 22 hrs
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Protocol

Literally.
See James's reference quote for details.
The most common meaning of protocol is “a system of rules that explain the correct conduct and procedures to be followed in formal situations,”
Peer comment(s):

agree patinba
4 hrs
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, and it walks like a duck...quack quack
5 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Yes, it was the obvious asnwer in the end. Thanks!"
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11 hrs

code of professional conduct

In general terms protocol is a code of correct practice or a guide to behavior practice. It can be also the first copy of a treaty or other such document before its ratification (approval or confirmation).
From the information in the question:
A convention exists between Spain and Iceland to avoid double taxation and avoid or report tax evasion with respect to tax duty on income, profit and property. There's a protocol (code of practice) established in Madrid, January 2002
There are guidelines on tax evasion and reports, including protocol for management between a business division and a personal division.
(PDF file on guidelines on the processing of tax reports, June 2022)
https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/tdm/compliance/s...
From the reference below:
The present convention is applied to taxes demanded on income and property for each one of the binding states, their political subdivisions and local authorities with their system of tax levy or collection.
Tax on income and property are considered with the profit or property surplus
value, including tax on income derived from the disposal of property, similar to tax on surplus value.
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2002-20192

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Note added at 12 hrs (2023-08-24 22:09:59 GMT)
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Tax on capital gains is connected with the surplus value such as tax on an asset with an increased value.
Example sentence:

"El presente convenio se aplica a los impuestos sobre la renta y el patrimonio exigibles por cada uno de los Estados contratantes, sus subdivisiones políticas o sus entidades locales, cualquiera que sea su sistema de exacción."

Peer comment(s):

disagree AllegroTrans : That is ONE definition but not the translation: In THIS context it isn't about professional conduct anyway: Have you read JW's reference comment?
19 hrs
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Reference comments

26 mins
Reference:

See page 3 of this UN doc

It has been translated as follows:

"Convention between the Kingdom of Spain and the Republic of Iceland for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and on capital (with protocol). Madrid, 22 January 2002"
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Toni Castano : Right. I am adding another reference above (no room here for the link).
11 mins
Thanks, Toni.
agree Adrian MM. : though it's not a 'convention' as in Brit. Constitutional unwritten-convention law (exam question) tradition, rather an internat. Agreement or Treaty.
26 mins
Treaty, I would say. I just copied/pasted the text from the reference doc posted, which is from the UN's "treaties.un.org" website, so a bit of an oversight by the translator of that text...
agree Taña Dalglish : I worked with the UN for almost 20 years & R terms that R often used // The comment was directed at Adrian MM. Irrelevant remark. mentioned.https://www.hacienda.gob.es/Documentacion/Publico/NormativaD...
1 hr
Thanks, Taña. There's no question about translating "protocolo" as "protocol" here, which is the term the asker is querying. So the translation of "convenio" is irrelevant
agree Michelle Wright
1 hr
Thanks, Michelle.
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, find the English version; first port of call
2 hrs
Indeed :) Thanks, Allegro.
agree neilmac : If it walks like a duck... it's a protocol :-)
23 hrs
Cheers, Neil :-)
agree patinba : Now please post it as an answer before there are any more misguided suggestions.
1 day 1 hr
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