Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

в четвертом десятке

English translation:

\"in the top 40\" (if positive) or \"outside the top 30\" (if negative)

Added to glossary by Susan Welsh
Aug 14, 2023 15:26
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Russian term

в четвертом десятке

Russian to English Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy
B 2018 году Россия занимает место в четвертом десятке.
This is about PISA scores of pupils internationally.

Discussion

Mikhail Kropotov Aug 16, 2023:
Don't be docile about "decile" Дорогой коллега! Децили, как написано везде, обозначают десятые части сортированного набора чисел. Первый дециль – верхние 10%, второй – вторые 10% и так далее. Десятки же к процентам и квантилям отношения не имеют. В данном случае речь идет о списке стран, и РФ занимает в нем место с 30 по 39 (либо с 31 по 40, сказать точно невозможно). Если стран в рейтинге, скажем, 200, то первый дециль соответствовал бы местам с 1 по 20, второй – с 21 по 40, третий – с 41 по 60, и так далее. Если бы в каком-нибудь рейтинге был миллион элементов, то один дециль исчислялся бы сотней тысяч элементов – а десяток бы оставался десятком.

Proposed translations

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"in the top 40" (if positive) or "outside the top 30" (if negative)

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Note added at 8 mins (2023-08-14 15:35:02 GMT)
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...entered the top 40 in the XYZ rankings.

...fell / dropped out of the top 30 in the XYZ rankings.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Mikhail
Peer comment(s):

agree Oleg Lozinskiy
19 mins
agree Sofia Gutkin
21 hrs
agree Anton Konashenok
1 day 2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Seems OK to me. Thanks everyone."
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within the fourth decile
i.e.bbetween 31 and 40


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Note added at 3 days 3 hrs (2023-08-17 19:06:44 GMT) Post-grading
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https://www.multitran.com/m.exe?a=3&sc=0&s=decile&l1=1&l2=2
Note from asker:
Thank you. The main problem I have with this is that I've never heard anybody say that, and I don't think anybody will know what it means.
Peer comment(s):

agree The Misha : "In the fourth decile" is a perfectly legitimate if somewhat stilted turn of phrase. Whether it makes for good writing in English is a totally different question.
8 hrs
Thank you.
disagree Mikhail Kropotov : Decile is a percentile, which unfortunately makes your translation mathematically inaccurate. // Your link confirms it, as do many others.
21 hrs
disagree Anton Konashenok : 'Decile' means a totally different thing.
1 day 2 hrs
agree James McVay
2 days 1 hr
Thank you.
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