Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

do recover as against

English answer:

the Applicant pays the costs

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Jul 19, 2021 21:19
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English term

do recover as against

English Law/Patents Law (general)
Hi!

It is the first time ever I came upon such a form used:

It is ordered that the Respondent DO RECOVER AS AGAINST the Applicant the costs...

Who is paying who? It is simply the first time ever I see a combination of DO RECOVER AS AGAINST used.


Deeply apologize in advance!


Thank you.
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the Applicant pays

the Respondent will/shall (be entitled to) recover costs from the Applicant

"DO recover against..." is just (very) old-style legal English, mostly 19th century

Examples from the UK, US, Irl and Australia so was widespread

https://books.google.ie/books?id=GAg0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PT19&lpg=PT...


Philadelphia Times Newspaper Archives, Mar 30, 1886, p. 4https://newspaperarchive.com › ... › 1886 › March 30
... and that the said plaintiff do recover costs against the said defendant, to be taxed by the Prothonotarv under directions of the Court.
Crown Suits Act 1898 - Western Australian Legislationhttps://www.legislation.wa.gov.au › RedirectURL
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it is adjudged by the Court here that the Crown do recover against the said the said sum of and also the sum of for costs (if any), and the further sum of.

Webb v. Ireland | [1987] IESC 2 | Supreme Court of Ireland ...https://www.casemine.com › ... › 1987 › December
... or in the alternative at the option of the plaintiffs an order that the plaintiffs do recover against the defendants ...

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Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans : I was taught to draft orders using "do" when I worked for the Courts Service // undoubtedly still in use at the RCJ in the Strand, can't speak for the SCI
2 hrs
Many thanks:-)//Yes, not surprised. I remember seeing it. I wonder if some fuddy duddies are still using that structure
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : Good examples.
5 hrs
Many thanks:-) Yes, love (not!) the Aussie one: "the Crown do recover against the said the said sum of ..." No wonder people were lost in legalese!
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The applicant shall pay the respondent

Recover: to receive a money judgment in a lawsuit.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/recover

Maybe it should be written as:
"It is ordered that the Respondent DO RECOVER FROM the Applicant the costs..."


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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-07-20 16:48:36 GMT)
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Example of "recover from" usage:
In states that follow the traditional joint and several liability rule, each tortfeasor is liable for all of the plaintiff's damages, regardless of his or her degree of fault. Generally, in states that do not follow the doctrine of joint and several liability, the plaintiff can only recover from any given defendant according to that defendant's percentage of fault.
https://www.justia.com/injury/negligence-theory/comparative-...
Peer comment(s):

agree Mark Robertson
11 mins
Thank you!
agree AllegroTrans
3 hrs
Thank you!
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