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French term
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monter en force
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In a text about techniques for cycling on an e-bike. Context: "Il ne faut pédaler ni trop vite, ni trop doucement. C’est pourquoi il faut bien utiliser les changements de vitesse, de manière à toujours pédaler au même rythme, et ce, quelle que soit la pente. C’est aussi comme cela qu’on optimise l’assistance du moteur. Au pire, il vaut mieux mouliner un peu trop plutôt que de **monter en force**. » What is the distinction between "mouliner" and "monter en force"? I think that "mouliner" is pedalling fast, but isn't "monter en force" the same thing? Thanks in advance for any help.
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going up using pedal power
"mouliner" is using a low gear to go up a hill so pedaling seems easy. "monter en force" is when you go up a hill and have to push hard on the pedals to make it.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: yes, and probably standing on the pedals out of the saddle//it is saying NOT to do this after all: il vaut mieux mouliner un peu trop plutôt QUE DE...
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SafeTex
: Hello. I don't like to give out a disagree when I have my own suggestion but please see discussion
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Daryo
: you forgot that this is an electrical bike so you NEVER use "only pedal power" => you ALWAYS get "help" from the electrical motor, the only difference is how hard you have to push the pedals.
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go up a gear (or two)/into a higher gear/hammering it
"Mouliner" is for climbing hills and so is a low gear. So you need the opposite and "monter" i very close to "go up" in English
Alternatively, use a term like "hammering it", the opposite of being in a granny gear (low gear). You have both these latter terms in my reference
Alternatively, use a term like "hammering it", the opposite of being in a granny gear (low gear). You have both these latter terms in my reference
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to shift into high gear
into high gear = To a faster or more intense pace
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to gain strength
I believe that there is talk of not going slow, but it is a matter linked to the use of the gearbox.
For example, when driving a car it is not advisable to stay in first or second gear often, but to put the third and fourth gear when appropriate.
For example, when driving a car it is not advisable to stay in first or second gear often, but to put the third and fourth gear when appropriate.
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use more power
"mouliner un peu trop" is spinning a bit too fast:
Gocycle GS London Commuter review | Pedelecs - Electric ...https://www.pedelecs.co.uk › forum › threads › gocycle...
Nov 3, 2017 — I wish the bike had a higher top gear - I do find myself ***spinning a bit too fast*** if I want to maintain a speed over 15.5 mph. But if the rumour in the ..
https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/gocycle-gs-london-c...
It's about cadence, really. Using more force (or power) at a low cadence (or RPM) is explained here:
"Riding at a low cadence means you have to push harder on the pedals to turn the cranks around which puts more stress on your knees, hips and back especially."
https://thebodymechanic.com.au/cycling-cadence-what-is-it-an...
It's fairly technical, but on a standard bike two people can go at the same speed in different gears, one "spinning" in a low gear the other using power in a high gear.
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Note added at 16 hrs (2021-06-21 14:03:28 GMT)
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Probably better as "using too much power" in your context.
Basically by pedalling more slowly (at a low cadence), the electric power of the bike kicks in more easily and/or is more efficient.
Gocycle GS London Commuter review | Pedelecs - Electric ...https://www.pedelecs.co.uk › forum › threads › gocycle...
Nov 3, 2017 — I wish the bike had a higher top gear - I do find myself ***spinning a bit too fast*** if I want to maintain a speed over 15.5 mph. But if the rumour in the ..
https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/gocycle-gs-london-c...
It's about cadence, really. Using more force (or power) at a low cadence (or RPM) is explained here:
"Riding at a low cadence means you have to push harder on the pedals to turn the cranks around which puts more stress on your knees, hips and back especially."
https://thebodymechanic.com.au/cycling-cadence-what-is-it-an...
It's fairly technical, but on a standard bike two people can go at the same speed in different gears, one "spinning" in a low gear the other using power in a high gear.
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Note added at 16 hrs (2021-06-21 14:03:28 GMT)
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Probably better as "using too much power" in your context.
Basically by pedalling more slowly (at a low cadence), the electric power of the bike kicks in more easily and/or is more efficient.
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Daryo
: ambiguous - which power? from the electrical motor or from own muscles?
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Discussion
Si on n'anticipe pas le changement de vitesse, on va forcer (monter en force = pédaler en force).
https://www.vivonsvelo.fr/blog/coaching/mal-aux-cuisses-a-ve...
Moulinez pour mieux oxygéner les muscles
Pédaler en vélocité (au-delà de 90 tours par minute), avec un petit plateau oblige à faire tourner les jambes sans forcer. Si à vitesse égale, vous sollicitez un peu plus le cœur, vous gagnez en confort musculaire. En effet, vous améliorez l’irrigation des muscles, augmentez leur apport en oxygène et en substrats énergétiques, éliminez mieux les déchets engendrés par l’effort.
Article très instructif ici : https://www.velo-ceb.com/pages/efficacite/les-vitesses-1.htm...
Si vous excédez le seuil d'endurance, vous tomberez en résistance et lorsque l'énergie emmagasinée dans vos muscles sera épuisée, vous aurez beaucoup de difficulté à continuer... Si vous voyez que la pente est raide et longue, il est inutile de se donner un élan, vous allez vous épuiser pour rien et vous ne serez pas capable de la monter. Dans ce cas là, il vaudrait mieux aborder la pente à vitesse normale et changer de plateau rapidement pour conserver une bonne cadence et ensuite jouer avec vos pignons au fur et à mesure des besoins, toujours se rappeler qu'il vaut mieux mouliner plutôt que de forcer. Il faut aussi s'assurer de relâcher la tension sur la chaine une fraction de seconde, pour changer sur un pignon plus grand.
On your suggestion "going up using pedal power" and comment ""monter en force" is when you go up a hill and have to push hard on the pedals to make it", I'm pretty sure this is NOT what the writer means at all
My reason for saying this as bike rider myself, is that just before, you have "C’est pourquoi il faut bien utiliser les changements de vitesse, de manière à toujours pédaler au même rythme, et ce, quelle que soit la pente."
So the gear change is highly recommended rather than "pushing hard" on the pedals.
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