French term
La fatigue d’être parent ?
how would you translate the following phrase "La fatigue d’être parent ?" from French into English ?
Tiredness from being a parent ?
Parent tiredness ?
Tired of being a parent? (don't think this would be correct, the phrase in french would have had to be "fatigué d'être parent?")
Context : an article talking about Parental Burnout (Le Burnout Parental) in France. "La fatigue d’être parent ?" is a subtitle just after the main article title : Le Burnout Parental.
Many thanks !
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Proposed translations
Parenting fatigue
https://www.scarymommy.com/parenting-fatigue-blindsided/
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Katarina Peters
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Thanks, Katarina.
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Bokani Hart
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Thanks, Bokani.
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Conor McAuley
: More context required. Like "Zoom fatigue", the hits I found were fairly small complaints: "film fatigue", "Brangelina fatigue", "Kardashian fatigue": here, something very serious. / Agree to disagree! :-) Similar:"That's a bad look", used on CNN: no!!!!!
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Thank you, Conor, even though I still disagree & feel that "fatigue" does not trivialize this topic.
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Verginia Ophof
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Thank you, Verginia.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: parental fatigue
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Thanks, Nikki.
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liz askew
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Thanks, Liz.
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AllegroTrans
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Parenting Exhaution
''Being tired is different from being exhausted. If you are tired, you can have a good nights sleep and feel rested in the morning. If you are exhausted, your body aches with the desire to collapse, and ongoing fatigue can become your normal state of being.''
''A little-known reality is that exhaustion is a key trigger of more than 500,000 cases of postpartum depression a year.''
https://medium.com/the-motherload/why-exhausted-parents-should-be-a-national-issue-a66785439954
https://www.happiestbaby.com/blogs/parents/the-price-of-exhaustion
The Exhaustion of Being a Parent
Are you a stressed-out parent?
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or "do your kids stress you out?"
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Or "are your kids wearing you out (mentally and physically)", if you want to stay closer to the idea of fatigue.
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Or "are you at the end of your rope as a parent/when it comes to your kids/"
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"Have you had it with being a parent?"
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at the end of one's rope (exhaustion, no more patience) : https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/at the end of rope
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"Are you an exhausted parent?" Mentally and physically exhausted, of course.
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Yolanda Broad
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Merci beaucoup, Yolanda.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: As a psychologist, qualified + trained in FR, the term "fatigue" has clinical meaning. "Stress" has a couple of specific meanings w/in psychology.
"Fatigue" and "stress" are not syn. for a psychologist. ;-)//Correlated, indeed, not synonyms.
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There is a definite correlation between stress and parental burnout, as seen in this article: https://www.parentingscience.com/parenting-stress.html
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Zoe Lancet
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Merci beaucoup, Zoe!
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Fed up of being a parent?
From the creator of "Catastrophe" and an actor know from several fairly big movies too:
"...here almost every character is a ***fed-up mother*** (with one or two novelty stay-at-home dads)."
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/motherland-s...
I think they say "fed up" in the US too.
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I've confirmed that "fed up" is used in the US.
I don't think that you need a trendy expression -- the article doesn't read like an article from French Vogue or anything.
As for repetition, the French uses "parental" and then "parent".
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"Are you a tired parent?"
"tired" takes in the mental and physical aspects of being on the way to burn-out, as I think is required, based on context that I've imagined.
Also, you could imagine parents reading this any nodding back or shouting "Yes I certainly am!" at their phones, tablets or even magazines.
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
: I think it would rather be "fed up WITH"./OK, I thought that might be the issue, but we would use "with" in the US. Although here is the US, we might say something like "I've had my fill of being a parent". Cheerio!
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The Oxford (UK) and Merriam-Webster (USA) dictionaries have entries for both.
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writeaway
: fed up takes this in another direction. when people are fed up with doing something, it gives the idea of wanting to quit/stop. It's more (en) avoir marre than just fatigue
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Fair comment, I think. On reflection, you're right. Burn-out is mental and physical. "Fed up" is just mental. I'm assuming that the term is used to mean a stage on the way to burn-out.
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Adrian MM.
: fed up being vs. of or with. Obscure comments from non-parents are not very helpful.
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Thanks, but I now think my later answer, "Are you a tired parent?" is better / Or go full-on and say, "Are you half-way to parenting burn-out?", which is what I think the term describes.
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Libby Cohen
: I tend to agree with writeaway as to the subtlety of this difference. As an overworked single parent, am pretty much in fatigue/exhaustion mode most of the time, but would NEVER say "fed up," which sounds like regret. I want to continue being a parent.
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Thanks for the feedback, but I now think my later answer, "Are you a tired parent?" is better / Or go full-on and say, "Are you half-way to parenting burn-out?", which is what I think the term describes
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Anne Schulz
: Le Burnout Parental – La fatigue d’être parent? Due to the question mark and the duplicated title, it does seem to me like an allusion to the grey zone of 'tired from' vs 'tired of'. Context should tell whether or not this is the intended meaning.
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Thanks Anne!
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AllegroTrans
: wrong emphasis: you can suffer fatigue doing something rewarding and joyful, hein?
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Chris, my later -- ""Are you a tired parent?" -- is better, but as I've said "x fatigue" trivialises it, given the collocations. Sometimes, I think, the asker is overwhelmed by all the notifications they get in their inbox, question framing too, hein ?
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Parental fatigue
So, this being a question and depending on the precise context, it could be:
Parental fatigue?
Parental burnout?
Suffering parental fatigue?
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The influence of parental fatigue on parenting practices is not known.
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Rachel Fell
: https://tinyurl.com/uaenrs6x (it's a Google hits page)
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Agree with term as alt. to "parenting fatigue", the latter being in the "doing", "parental" in the "being"? Beyond that, note that fatigue is a feature of burnout, not the other way round and that they are not synonymous. ;-)
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Parental Burnout
Brain fog
Limited tolerance (shorter temper)
Confusion
Forgetfulness
Increased stress levels
Depression
Feelings of isolation
Poor sleep
Obsessive-compulsive tendencies.
https://www.webmd.com/parenting/what-to-know-about-parental-...
https://www.burnoutparental.com/
https://www.burnoutparental.com/international-consortium
https://www.parental-burnout-training.com/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332402868_Parental_...
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s42761-020-00028-4
when parents lack the resources needed to handle stressors related to parenting, they may develop parental burnout.
Have your children worn you out?
My suggestion's backed up by personal experience ;-)
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philgoddard
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Thank you, Phil
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Marge Hogarty
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Thank you, Marge
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SafeTex
: this follows on from the title "Parental burnout" and does not have any of the wrong connotations that I feel some other answers have
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Thank you, SafeTex
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24 Oct 2018 — When people experience emotional exhaustion, it can make them feel emotionally drained, overwhelmed, and fatigued. These feelings tend to ...
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Memrci Liz! This, and sillions of other sources will point to how stress, fatigue and burnout are not synonyms, the two former terms being factors that contribute to a diagnosis of the third. ;-)
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Discussion
Looks like no more context is going to be provided...
Is this a self-help article for parents? If so, you could say something like "Kids getting too much for you?"