Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

il sublimera de sa robe champenoise

English translation:

It will add a distinctive sparkle to

Added to glossary by claude-andrew
Mar 8, 2021 09:38
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French term

il sublimera de sa robe champenoise

French to English Other Food & Drink Champagne description
Il nous accompagne pendant les soirées, il est présent dans nos meilleurs souvenirs, il a su jouer sa carte blanche à toutes les occasions de nous faire plaisir.
Son attaque est simple, gourmande et expressive, à chaque fois elle fait mouche.
Ce champagne ne cherche pas forcément la longueur, il s’exprime comme une petite explosion en bouche, gourmand en fruits frais et s’efface sur une petite note de complexité qui vous rappelle à son bon souvenir.
À consommer à toutes les occasions, **il sublimera de sa robe champenoise** l’ensemble de vos fêtes et réceptions.

Discussion

claude-andrew (asker) Mar 12, 2021:
Thanks to all of you - a rich harvest of expressions all going into my wine description file!
Lara Barnett Mar 11, 2021:
Robe I think that possibly the basis of this term (here) is similar to our figurative/metaphorical use in English of "veil" when we speak of wine, hence my figurative/metaphorical suggestion of "dress". Likewise, "enrober" in France can also be used figuratively, which is what we are talking about here surely.
This obviously does not actually refer to a woman's dress, (as a certain peer has mistakenly - or intentionally - misconstrued below in my answer), but is used in English as a figurative/metaphorical verb for ornamenting or adorning something. It may take a wider knowledge of figurative or colloquial English to understand this, but I am sure it is not unusual.
claude-andrew (asker) Mar 8, 2021:
Marvellous! I raise a glass to both of you!

Proposed translations

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It will add a distinctive sparkle to

Cheers!
Note from asker:
Now I'm embarrassed for choice! Thanks!
Peer comment(s):

agree Wendy Streitparth : Sounds the most natural to me.
34 mins
agree Carol Gullidge : me too! We don't know if this destined for a bottle label, but in any case, we Brits usually tend to prefer less flowery descriptions these days
43 mins
disagree Hilary McGrath : the 'robe' is A Thing in wine. It's not a flowery description.
1 hr
neutral SafeTex : Hello Ormiston. it's one thiing taking out "robe" but I can't see how "champenoise" can get the chop too. I mean, isn't this essential in the description?
1 hr
sparkle was my subtle nod to champagne..
neutral Andrew Bramhall : I don't think this covers the meaning being conveyed;
1 hr
disagree Daryo : with Hilary McGrath
3 hrs
agree philgoddard
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks ormiston!"
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Dazzling in its champagne robe, it will enhance...

I would switch the sentence around: Dazzling in its champagne robe (lower case 'c' for the drink, lower case for the colour, upper case for the region), it will enhance any occasion
Example sentence:

The wine is cellar-aged for over five years before being disgorged. ... Admire the dazzling golden straw robe, enhanced with an exquisite effervescence and ...

Peer comment(s):

agree Saeed Najmi
1 hr
agree Daryo : you mean https://www.taittinger.com/en ??? http://tattinger.com is an expired domain name.
3 hrs
neutral philgoddard : If "robe" is a wine term, what does it mean? And isn't "champagne" redundant?//OK, thanks, but I still think my second point is valid.
4 hrs
See Daryo's explanation of robe below. Champagne here is the colour of the robe. It could be described as typically champagne coloured but anyone in the wine world will understand 'champagne robe'.
neutral Andrew Bramhall : Not for UK; a "champagne robe" here would be champagne coloured evening wear;
6 hrs
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1 hr

It will showcase your champagne gladrags

The idea they're trying to convey is the fact that the drink is as classy and elegant as you and your party guests, that it's the perfect quality to complement you and your guests;
Peer comment(s):

disagree SafeTex : Hello. Unless you have confused "robe" of a wine with "clothes" (gladrags), I just can't see how you think this is the idea that the writer is trying to convey.
14 mins
Not at all.'Robe de soirée' is the gear you're drinking champagne in, so 'gladrags' as an idiom for clothing reflects the specialness of the occasion, and hence the appropriately high quality of the champagne being imbibed on said occasions;
disagree Daryo : A simple grammatical analysis of this sentence would show that "la robe" is an attribute / a property of this champagne. NOTHING to do with anyone's "robe" = "glad rags" - it's "la robe du champagne" - even in marketing you can't just ignore that!
2 hrs
Since when has simple grammatical analysis ever had any bearing on the flowery hyperbole of wine marketing-speak?
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Its sparkling elegance will bring your celebrations to new heights

My stab at it. I tried to keep something of robe (elegance) and something of champenoise (sparkling)...

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Sorry, I must confess that I didn't know what "robe" was (my wine terminology is mostly Italian and Spanish). Thank you for elucidating me!

Another attempt (since we have champagne in the line leading up to this one, I think "sparking" is enough of an allusion):

Its sparkling hues will make any occasion a time to celebrate.
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5 hrs

a sparkling delight that will add/adds to every celebration

Another possibility.

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Or "that brightens every celebration".
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13 hrs

with its sublime hue and sparkle, it will elevate....

This is a way to convey that the champagne's appearance (robe) will enhance all of (l'ensemble) your holidays and receptions. So "ensemble" is used to refer to the receptions as a whole, but I think it also uses the word in the sense of something that is worn (un ensemble). There is a play on words here with ensemble and robe which is difficult to replicate in English.
Example sentence:

with its sublime hue and sparkle, it will elevate all your holidays and parties.

Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo
19 hrs
Thanks, Daryo
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2 hrs

dressing all your ....with it's sparkling radiance (OR HUE

Again, I would tweak the structure a litte bit.

"...dressing all your special occasions and receptions with it's sparkling radiance.

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ABOVE should read as "Hue" as an alternaive, or even "...with its bubbly hues."

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To Dress:
(See definition 11)
"11. to trim; ornament; adorn:
to dress a store window; to dress a Christmas tree."
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/dress

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Please ignore the misleading comments below from this peer, whose English does not seem particularly good, and who has misinterpreted my answer.. Note that "dressing" is not connected to wearing a "dress", as he has implied, but is a metaphor used in English to describe covering or adorning something.

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Another Synonym for "dressing" would be :

VEILED
Definition of veiled
1a: ..
b: characterized by a softening tonal distortion
2: obscured as if by a veil : DISGUISED by a....
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/veiled
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : you seem to have interpreted "sa robe" as someone's dress.
1 day 6 hrs
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Reference comments

4 hrs
Reference:

Robe du vin (aspect) dégustation

Robe du vin (aspect) dégustation

Robe (du vin) dégustation : la robe du vin désigne la couleur et l’aspect extérieur du vin. L’œil dans une dégustation est le premier sens en éveil. Il va examiner, observer le vin dans son verre.

Un vin se goûte d’abord avec les yeux

Un vin se goûte d’abord par les yeux. Sa robe ou sa charpente* donne de précieuses indications sur l’état de sa maturation et son potentiel de garde. Ainsi, pour un vin bien structuré, robuste, bien équilibré, harmonieux, parlera-t-on d’une robe chatoyante, lumineuse, etc.

* La charpente du vin s’obtient en effet par dégradation de la matière colorante.

Examen de la robe, première étape d’une dégustation

La couleur se définit par d’infinies nuances qui peuvent aller par exemple du jaune pâle, jaune doré au jaune orangé. Cette couleur a également une intensité. Elle peut être pâle, moyenne, soutenue, foncée, profonde, intense. Mais la couleur d’un vin n’est jamais stable, elle évolue en fonction de son âge*. Ainsi, pour les rouges, les vins jeunes sont en général rubis avec des reflets violacés, alors que les vins vieux sont tuilés ou ocres. C’est aussi un signe révélateur du cépage et de sa région. On sait que le pinot noir est un cépage peu coloré, aussi, les robes des vins de Bourgogne sont généralement peu profondes. Les vins blancs jeunes possèdent des nuances vertes ; les vins plus anciens se parent de touches dorées etc.

Ce que dévoile sa robe

Vins rouges

rouge vif un peu violacé : il s’agit d’un vin jeune.
rouge cerise : le vin est en pleine évolution, il n’a pas encore atteint sa maturité mais peut être consommé.
rouge avec des nuances orangées : le vin est à boire ; s’il s’agit d’un vin de garde, il commence son évolution.
rouge brun à brique : il est temps de le boire.
Vins blancs

jaune pâle, presque transparent : le vin est très jeune.
jaune avec des reflets un peu verts : le vin n’a pas encore évolué.
jaune paille : c’est un vin à bonne maturité.
jaune d’or cuivré : s’il s’agit d’un vin sec, il est bien évolué. S’il s’agit d’un vin liquoreux, il est à maturité.
jaune brun : c’est un vin oxydé.
Vins rosés

rose pâle, incolore : c’est un vin obtenu par pressurage.
rose saumoné : le vin est fruité, jeune, il peut être bu.
rose orangé : c’est un vin vieillissant.
Ce que dévoile sa limpidité (sa transparence).

On incline le verre au-dessus d’un support blanc puis on fait tourner le vin dans le verre. Cet examen permet de faire un état sanitaire du vin. Si le vin est en bonne santé, il sera limpide, brillant et transparent, tous les signes d’un vin au meilleur de sa forme. Ici, on parle de :

brillance du vin. Elle peut être lumineuse, fraîche, éclatante, scintillante, terne, éteinte, oxydée ce qui révèle son degré d’acidité (un éclat très brillant est souvent le signe d’une acidité soutenue, surtout pour un vin blanc).
limpidité du vin. Elle peut être claire, lumineuse, transparente, opaque, sale, trouble, floue. Mais attention ! Une robe trouble ne signifie pas systématiquement un défaut. Il s’agit peut être d’un producteur qui préfère ne pas filtrer son vin.
intensité du vin. Elle peut être pâle, soutenue, foncée, veloutée, forte, épaisse, insuffisante, pauvre, faible. L’intensité d’un vin est une indication précieuse sur son origine (et notamment ses cépages) et son millésime.
éclat du vin. Il peut être cristallin, brillant, éclatant, mat, terne ou éteint ce qui est là aussi révélateur de son degré d’acidité.
Enfin, le gras de la robe, c’est-à-dire la capacité du vin à tenir sur le verre lorsqu’on l’incline puis le redresse (autrement dit les larmes ou les jambes) sera une bonne indication de la suavité du vin, de sa teneur en glycérol ou éthanol.

https://dico-du-vin.com/robe-du-vin-aspect-degustation/


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"robe" is also used in English


GLOSSARY OF WINE AND BEER MAKING

** robe = The depth of colour of a wine **.

http://ngwbj.org.uk/glossary_r.html Nota Bene: ....org.uk

The National Guild of Wine and Beer Judges is the body responsible for setting and maintaining the standards for judging at shows throughout England and Wales. It was founded in 1963 by a group of people who had become concerned at the variability of judging standards at various shows.

http://ngwbj.org.uk/index.html


Not to worry! Here are a few pointers to help you cover the basics, and to help you enjoy the wonderful moment when your senses are stimulated and enchanted by the "robe" of the wine, its fruity "nose", and its lingering length on the "palate". These are the three senses that called upon the most when tasting wines, and the trick is to find the words to describe what you perceive. Let's start with the sight, one of the first senses to be aroused when some wine is served in your glass.

Start by analysing its robe, which is a combination of its colour, intensity and viscosity. Is it ruby or brick red? Is the colour intense? Or even shiny? A wine's colour can tell you a lot about its evolution. A "young" red wine will tend to be more purple in colour, compared to an older wine which has started to turn an orangey-red. When inspecting the colour, it's best to do so against a white background such as a napkin or piece of paper. A coloured background can hide the true colour of the wine.

https://www.gourmetodyssey.com/blog/2015/02/23/166-The-funda...




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https://www.terroir-france.com/wine/glossary.htm

https://en.mimi.hu/wine/robe.html
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Cyril Tollari
6 hrs
This is definitely a case where you either already know for sure the "trade jargon" or ***you check first***. Thanks!
agree Yolanda Broad
9 hrs
Thanks!
agree Nicole Acher : Lots of useful information here.
1 day 12 hrs
and it takes less than a minute to find it - Thanks!
neutral Lara Barnett : Please remove your misleading comment from my answer, as I have not suggested the noun "dress", as you have misleadingly implied, and your own linguistic evaluation incorrect, /// So what was the purpose of your comment? I made no reference to a "dress".
2 days 9 hrs
I'm perfectly aware there's more than one meaning for "a dress / to dress", and to "dress the occasion" has little to do with "la robe *du champagne*", unless you use a truckload of "poetic licence".
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