French term
Spain
Law, Business & Marketing, BA, MA, MCIL
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English
Ministre ou son délégué
The context is:
"Un représentant du Ministre ou son délégué"
My gut feeling was "deputy", however I see the EU translate "délégué" in this context as representative, although here "représentant" is already used here.
Any suggestions would be very welcome!
Thanks,
Nick
| 5 +5 | the minister's representative or his/her delegate |
Gordon Matthews
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| 4 | The Minister or his delegate |
YESHWANT UMRALKAR
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| 4 -3 | or someone assigned by them |
Ben Gaia
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Aug 15, 2020 14:06: philgoddard changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (3): Jennifer White, Rachel Fell, philgoddard
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Proposed translations
Germany
translator - copy-editor - proofreader
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, US)
Works in: German to English, French to English
the minister's representative or his/her delegate
Variations on the theme would be:
the minister's representative or his/her deputy
the minister's representative or someone delegated by her/him
the minister's representative or someone appointed by her/him to act as a delegate
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B D Finch
: Yes, I agree about retaining the ambiguity, though I think it is more likely to be a person delegated by the minister, as a delegate has powers to act (e.g. if they spot a problem before they sign) that a representative probably doesn't have.
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Thanks for agreement!
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AllegroTrans
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Thanks for agreement!
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writeaway
: I don't understand the difficulty. /But that has no effect on the actual translation.
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Thanks for agreeing. The difficulty is that it isn't clear whether the delegate is to be delgated by the minister or by the minister's representative.
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liz askew
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Thanks for agreement!
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Libby Cohen
: Seems the logical choice.
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Thanks for agreement!
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or someone assigned by them
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Daryo
: The question as asked i.e. "Ministre ou son délégué" is the result of wrong parsing - no point answering if THAT is not corrected first.// there is no "them" - only ONE minister
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B D Finch
: A delegate has power to act, so "assigned" is too vague. However, I agree with your use of the gender-neutral pronoun "them", which is correctly used as either singular or plural.
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AllegroTrans
: Dropping 'delegate' in favour of 'someone assigned' isn't translation
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India
Translation is a work of art
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, Spanish to English, French to English, and 2 more.
The Minister or his delegate
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Note added at 11 hrs (2020-08-15 07:33:21 GMT)
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Pg 112 of Architecture of National Commissions for UNESCO: fundamentals concerning their status, composition and resources
Composed of 7 members: the Minister of Foreign Affairs or his delegate; the Minister of National Education or his/her delegate; the Minister of Communication or her/his delegate; the Minister of Environment, Housing and Territorial Development or her/his delegate; the Minister of Culture or her/his delegate; the Director of the Colombia Agency of International Cooperation or her/his delegate; and the Director of the Colombia Institute for Science and Technology Development or her/his delegate
https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000184255
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B D Finch
: Nowadays, the pronoun should be gender-neutral: their delegate, or his/her delegate.
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Discussion
is NOT a "context" of any kind - it's nothing more than only a small fragment of a sentence. (or a reference to someone authorised to sign the contract?)
What is the full sentence? THAT would be a good start to have some usable context.
As it is the whole of:
"Un représentant du Ministre ou son délégué"
would be most likely a reference to either:
1) un représentant du Ministre
2) un délégué du Ministre = un Ministre délégué https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministre_délégué
i.e. "son" = du Ministre
that a "representative" of a Minister would have its own "delegated signatory" is strictly speaking not impossible but rather unlikely - if anyone is "representing" a Minister he/she would be expected to do it personally not pass it on again to someone else.