Jul 22, 2020 18:43
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German term

referierter Drittmittel

German to English Science Education / Pedagogy Research funding
This is part of a job vacancy advert for research posts in an academic institute. The sentence reads:

Erwartet werden eigene und kooperative Publikationen sowie die Mitwirkung an der Erwerbung auch referierter Drittmittel.

I don't know how "referierter" can fit in this context. Can anyone help, please?

Discussion

Steffen Walter Jul 22, 2020:
@ Sarah "Erwerbung" strikes me as odd - "Einwerbung" sounds far more common to my ears. See, for example, https://www.uni-heidelberg.de/forschung/service/leitfaden/dr...
Jennifer Caisley Jul 22, 2020:
Yes, exactly - spot on! That's spot on - I read it as saying that they need to have published by themselves and with others (what we often call "single author" and "co-authored" publications), as well as having participated in gaining peer-reviewed grants (with that positioning of "auch" in the German suggesting, to my ear, that not necessarily *all* the grants need to have been peer-reviewed).

With "Erwerbung" I'm not 100% whether it's talking about simply having *made the applications*, as you suggest (which does sound more natural in English) or actually *gained the funding* (which fits closer with "erwerben" in German) - hopefully the further context will give you a clue there!

You definitely don't need to be logged in to view the links, but I wonder if they were too long and got cut off! Maybe these shortened ones will work - https://bit.ly/2BlbzOX and https://bit.ly/39jtKBf respectively. If they don't work, just searching for the quoted sentences in double quotes should point you towards them, I hope!
Sarah Lewis-Morgan (asker) Jul 22, 2020:
Thanks again, Jennifer So, as I understand it, the candidate must not only have published, but also have been active in making peer-reviewed grant applications?
Sadly none of your links work. I presume I need to register or something to access them, but I think I have enough to go on. Thank you for your efforts.
Jennifer Caisley Jul 22, 2020:
Found it! (I'll submit it as an answer too) I've just texted a colleague to see if she can think of anything, and I'll let you know if she gets back to me, but in my field (literature), we tend to just talk about "funding" or "grants", without really modifying it with an adjective.

That said, I've done a quick bit of research and "peer-reviewed grants" does seem to be relatively common, especially in the sciences (and fits nicely with "referiert" as "peer-reviewed" in the sense of publications, too). E.g. "63 percent of mentees submitted a total of 72 grants, of which 58 percent obtained 40 peer-reviewed grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and non-NIH funding agencies." (https://www.acc.org/membership/sections-and-councils/academi... "The c.v. shall include information concerning the nominee's academic training and career, including [...] peer reviewed grants" (https://www.afpc.info/node/57), and this entire academic CV (https://lsa.umich.edu/content/dam/michigan-lsa/people-update... for example.
Sarah Lewis-Morgan (asker) Jul 22, 2020:
Thank you, Jennifer That is very helpful. If the term does come to you, then please let me know. Unfortunately I have to deliver this translation by early in the morning, but I would be interested to know, anyway.
Jennifer Caisley Jul 22, 2020:
Hi Sarah - some info from inside the ivory tower! Current, practising academic here, so hopefully I can shed some light on your query!

I believe what they're after with "referiert" in this context is funding applications that are subject to some kind of review process - i.e. where the funding isn't just automatically given out (as it is in some cases), but rather the application for the funding is reviewed against a broader field so the funding is given to the projects with the most merit etc.

It looks a bit bizarre to the rest of the world but a core part of academic job applications lies in demonstrating previous success in attaining funding (which could presumably be carried forward in the future, too), and that's how I read this here.

If it's helpful, there's a brief explanation in this link [https://wbw.unileoben.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/shares/wbw...] - "die Einnahmen aus Projekten der Forschung im Sinne von Antragsmittel (referierte Drittmittel)", i.e. funding that you have to submit an actual "Antrag" for.

It's really nothing to do with it being reported or referred, I'm afraid, but the term we'd use escapes me at present! I'll pop back when it comes back to me! :)

Proposed translations

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peer-reviewed grants / funding

See discussion box for details.
Example sentence:

The c.v. shall include information concerning the nominee's academic training [...] peer reviewed grants;

of which 58 percent obtained 40 peer-reviewed grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and non-NIH funding agencies

Peer comment(s):

agree Steffen Walter
1 hr
Thanks, Steffen!
agree Lancashireman
1 hr
Thanks, Andrew!
agree TonyTK
10 hrs
Thanks, Tony!
agree Chris Pr
21 hrs
Thanks, Chris!
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59 mins

reported external funding

Some scientific articles are more likely than others to report external funding
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refereed external funds

I agree, peer-reviewed (referierter) doesn't make sense as an adjective here, although I do understand that it could be the wrong German word being used here. But still, I would refereed, in the sense of "verified".

Another option is referenced. I would use that if the job ad mentions some possible third party sources of funding.

You can use verified external funds as in from reputable sources also. But I would prefer refereed as it contains the slight possibly intentional connotation of peer-reviewed to some extent at least. Especially since the context is clearly academic also.

found this English text that helps: in the economic sphere, research, the publication of peer-reviewed articles, and the acquisition of third-party funding.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

begutachtete Drittmittel

I believe "begutachtete Drittmittel" is a fare more common term for this. Maybe this will help.
Note from asker:
Thank you. That fits in with Jennifer's input, too.
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