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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Colegio de Pequeño Derecho

English translation:

rights management entity (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho)

Added to glossary by Eileen Brophy
Jul 16, 2020 16:19
3 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Colegio de Pequeño Derecho

Spanish to English Law/Patents Business/Commerce (general) Copyright Management
This is the context:

Poco después del inicio de esta legislatura, la Comisión Deontológica, cuya misión es examinar los posibles conflictos de intereses en los miembros de la Junta Directiva, dictaminó que de los 16 miembros de nuestro Colegio de Pequeño Derecho, un total de 14 no eran aptos para votar ni participar en aquellos asuntos relativos a las normas de reparto.
Proposed translations (English)
3 rights management entity (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho)
4 +1 Minor Copyright Committee
3 +1 copyright panel
3 Small Copyright Committee
3 -3 Ours the collegium for minority rights
References
Definition

Discussion

Eileen Brophy (asker) Jul 17, 2020:
Mistaken choice of answer I am sorry but I made a mistake in choosing the correct answer, I intended choosing Minor Copyright Committee but for some reason I hit the wrong one. Probably lack of sleep, because I went to bed at 05:00 and was up at 08:30. My apologies Matthew Hoffman.
Toni Castano Jul 16, 2020:
Distinction between "pequeño" and "gran derecho" The key point here is the distinction between "pequeño derecho de autor" and "gran derecho de autor" as defined by the Sociedad General de Autores y Editores (SGAE) of Spain. Once this difference is clear, a natural (and correct) translation into English will flow by itself, easily, certainly an adaptation to the UK system will be needed (in case Eileen´s translation is for the UK market, what I assume). I recommend to read the following article, which might be helpful to shed some light on the concept at stake here.
https://ruthcastellote.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/que-son-las-...
¿Qué son las Obras de pequeño y gran derecho?

Proposed translations

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rights management entity (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho)

https://spainsnews.com/jose-angel-hevia-new-president-of-the...

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My suggestion would be to keep the Spanish, with English in parentheses, or alternatively put the Spanish in parentheses, as is done in the reference I have found.



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The most powerful group in the rights management entity (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho) have voted en bloc in favor.
https://spainsnews.com/jose-angel-hevia-new-president-of-the...

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much Michele"
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Ours the collegium for minority rights

"Ours the collegium for minority rights" - The rights of persons belonging to national, ethic and religious minorities.

https://www.ohchr.org/documents/publications/minorityrights_...

Peer comment(s):
disagree patinba : You really must desist from posting in languages with which you are not familiar., as it is of no help.
21 mins
disagree Juan Jacob : Derecho = law, not rights. Ours? C'mon!
6 hrs
Thank you for your help.
disagree AllegroTrans : This answer is ridiculous and you clearly have not understood. I totally agree with patinba. This forum isn't a guessing game and people who post terms want serious suggestions
18 hrs
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19 mins

Small Copyright Committee

Is what they translate themselves as.

The International Council of Music Authors (CIAM) met on 8th and 9th November in London (UK) to hold its annual conference, an opportunity to analyze the main problems affecting music and audiovisual creators at an international level.

Over the two-day event, CIAM members welcomed various representatives of performing arts organizations. The musician and record producer Javier Losada attended as a representative of the Spanish Society of Authors and Publishers (SGAE), in his role as vice president of the group’s Small-Copyright Committee (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho).
hapter 5: Copyright in the Digital Era - OECDwww.oecd.org › sti › ieconomy › Chapter5-KBC2-IP
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First, the WIPO definition is relatively old. Given technological ... Recent reports for Congress have included a report on Small Copyright Claims. (September ...


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The entity's translation seems to be in decent English, they have decided their name is "Small Copyright Committee"; knowing what it actually means may be interesting, but it is not up to the translator to keep explaining things.

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Here is the actual link, where to complicate matters they also mention "Minor Rights" you pays your money and you takes your choice, as they say, but don't worry about explanations any more than the Spanish does.

SGAE takes part in the CIAM Annual Conferencewww.sgae.es › SitePages › EstaPasandoDetalleActualidad
Nov 14, 2016 - ... of the group's Small-Copyright Committee (Colegio de Pequeño Derecho). The congress highlighted 'Fair Trade Music International' (FTMI), ...
Note from asker:
Excellent Patinba, I had no time to search for it, you have been of great help and I really do appreciate it.
If the term you have posted was used by SGAE then I will accept that Patinba, after all it's about the same subject.
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : I don't think this conveys a clear meaning - people won't know what small copyright is. The fact that one person has translated it that way doesn't make it correct. Your second reference is to small (ie low-value) claims, which is a different context.
37 mins
But does "Pequeño Derecho" convey a clear meaning in Spanish? Do Spanish-speaking "people" have a clue?
neutral Luigi Benetton : The term befuddles me. DeepL said "Bar Association" (?) From other research, this seems to deal with one organization (subcommittee?) that manages copyright for multiple artists... but I would research this further.
1 hr
It is definitely a Committee
neutral Toni Castano : I disagree with your comment ("it is not up to the translator to keep explaining things"), since I firmly believe it is up to us to translate in a way that is comprehensible for the target audience. "Small Copyright Committee" would not be understood.
1 hr
How easily understood to a Spanish reader is "Pequeño Derecho"?
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Minor Copyright Committee

The distinction between a major copyright ("gran derecho"), which gives a specific copyright to individual works, and a minor copyright ("pequeño derecho"), which copyrights a work as part of a collection of works, seems to be one that is made in Spain but not in the English-speaking world. "Minor" is preferable over "small."

Source for distinction: https://ruthcastellote.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/que-son-las-...

Source that suggests translation: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-patents/59...
Reference:

https://ruthcastellote.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/que-son-las-obras-de-pequeno-y-gran-derecho/

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-patents/59864-peque%C3%B1o-derecho.html

Peer comment(s):
agree patinba : Yes, as I mentioned in my posting, this might be better. Still not clear to an outsider what exactly it is, but as I said, if you translate assuming the reader knows nothing and explaining everything,translations will be much longer than the original :)
12 hrs
Thanks! Yes, it's always a dilemma.
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copyright panel

Copyright panels or committees would meet to pass judgement on issues connected with publishing and copyrights attached to written material and they would make decisions regarding purposes.
Example sentence:

La comisión deontológica, cuya misión es examinar los posibles conflictos de intereses en los miembros de la junta directiva dictaminó que de los 16 miembros del colegio de pequeño derecho un total de 14 no eran aptos para votar ni participar en asun

The ethics committee, whose purpose is to examine the possible conflicts of interest among members of the board of directors stated that of the 16 members of the copyright panel a total of 14 were not suitable to vote or participate among relative issues.

Reference:

http://www.linguee.com

Peer comment(s):
agree Luigi Benetton : The only thing missing here would be an explanation of how “pequeño” fits in, which a lawyer might be able to explain. Adding this explanation to the English translation may be worthwhile.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Definition

I can only partially understand this, and I'm not sure how I'd say it in English.

Las obras de pequeño derecho son objeto de gestión colectiva en cualquier tipo de explotación. Es decir, su explotación por parte de terceros es facilitada a través de autorizaciones genéricas para uso de repertorio concedidas por una Entidad a la que los autores han encomendado esta tarea.

Por otra parte, en las obras de gran derecho, aunque la gestión se encomiende por el autor a una Entidad de Gestión, las autorizaciones para la explotación de estas obras se otorgan de manera individualizada, pactando en cada caso las condiciones.
http://ruthcastellote.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/que-son-las-o...

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I think I understand it now, and I feel sure there must be an equivalent term in English. Something like "generic copyright", perhaps?
Note from asker:
I am going to use Copyright Committee with Minor Rights
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Toni Castano : I´ve posted exactly the same reference, which I deem essential to understand the difference between "pequeño" and "gran derecho de autor". But, same as you, I have no idea if there´s something similar in the Anglo-Saxon world.
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agree AllegroTrans : Useful. Toni: We don't live in the Anglo-Saxon world, they were simply the ancestors of some of us approx 1500 yeras ago!
1 day 6 hrs
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