Jul 9, 2020 07:45
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English term

"Thanks Miss red pen"

Non-PRO English Social Sciences General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Do natives use this phrase? "Thanks Miss red pen." Does it make sense to you as an English speaker?

Another point, what does " Thanks Miss red pen" mean? Do you think it's correct to use it? And does it make sense in English?
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Jul 9, 2020 12:36: Rachel Fell changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Tony M, Yvonne Gallagher, Rachel Fell

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Discussion

Yassine El Bouknify (asker) Jul 9, 2020:
Thank you all for your useful explanations .
Yvonne Gallagher Jul 9, 2020:
@ Asker easily, and I'd say immediately understood, even without context. Red pens are still used by teachers to correct errors in exercises, homework and to mark exam/test papers. It's not a matter of "proofreading" as such. As Tony said, it should really be "Miss Red Pen" and yes, it's slightly sarcastic, similar to saying Miss Know-It-All
Yassine El Bouknify (asker) Jul 9, 2020:
Thank you for your help .
Tony M Jul 9, 2020:
@ Asker Yes, and almost exactly as I guessed!
So the person who made the correction is being treated as a perhaps rather pedantic person trying to teach others (even when not requested); it's sarcastic, but not really actually rude.
Yassine El Bouknify (asker) Jul 9, 2020:
Thank you Tony Yesterday, a teacher wrote: "Does somebody have vocational bac exam, please? "

A member of the group corrected his mistake. She wrote: "Does anybody...?" Another teacher intervened and wrote: "Thanks Miss red pen."

Do you think it's an appropriate phrase within this context?

Thanks
Bashiqa Jul 9, 2020:
@ Asker Yes it makes sense.
Person writing it is complaining about the overuse of a "Red Pen" when marking work or correcting a document. At school redpens were used liberally to highlight mistakes in a scholar`s homework, and teachers would be referred to as Miss or Mister Red Pen, or more likely "Bloody red pen has been at it again".
Note to Tony: I have not copied your entry, just seen it.
Tony M Jul 9, 2020:
@ Asker CONTEXT?
Exactly how have you come across this expression, and in what context? Or is this your own proposed term in some context?
It does have a certain sense in EN, though of course, exactly how it is understood depends on the context in which it appears. I'd expect rather "Miss Red Pen" as if it were a proper name.
It sounds to me like an ironic remark (really meaning NO thanks!) by someone who was perhaps discouaged for life from creative writing by a too-severe teacher who used a great deal of 'red pen' to indicate mistakes in a pupil's work — it has been posited that the use of red ink in schools to express criticisms should be discouraged, as it can have a deep psychological effect on the pupil.

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English term (edited): \"thanks miss red pen\"
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thanks proofreader

A red pen was often used to correct texts, so this could be either an ironic or (less likely!) a heartfelt "thank you" to someone who has corrected what the speaker/author has written. It's perfectly correct in a colloquial setting.
Peer comment(s):

agree BdiL
38 mins
Thank you!
agree Isabella Nanni
2 hrs
Thanks!
agree writeaway : lots of info on the www: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Red Pen Poli...
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Thanks!
agree Mark Robertson : Great answer and done without any context.
2 hrs
Thank you 😉
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
6 hrs
agree Edith Kelly
8 hrs
agree AllegroTrans : said with a hint of sarcasm so it seems
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