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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

entrada

English translation:

attack/first impression

Added to glossary by Comunican
Jul 8, 2020 19:01
3 yrs ago
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Spanish term

entrada

Spanish to English Other Food & Drink Wine
In regard to wines - which I'm fairly adept at drinking, but not so good at describing ;-)

"La entrada es fresca y con volumen"
"Se presenta un vino franco con una entrada amplia y sedosa"
"En boca la entrada es suave"

Is it simply "entry"?

Many thanks.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 First impression /attack
3 +2 mouthfeel
3 entry, entrance
3 in mouth sensation/tasting
3 mouthfeel
3 -1 its intake

Discussion

Comunican (asker) Jul 9, 2020:
Many thanks all! Thank you all so much. I'll go with attack/first impression.
Rebecca Reddin Jul 9, 2020:
Support for 'attack' and 'first sip/impression' Note that 'attack' is a slightly more technical tasting term that your casual consumer may not necessarily know (although they might understand the idea), so it's worth evaluating whether it fits with the tone of the marketing text.
Attack: The initial taste of a wine in the mouth.
https://www.thewinecellarinsider.com/wine-topics/wine-educat...
Jane Martin Jul 9, 2020:
I have changed my mind.... Attack: the very first impression the wine makes when you take a sip.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hYVAAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA46&lpg...
Toni Castano Jul 8, 2020:
@Comunican, colleagues Here an interesting old (2005) entry from the Kudoz glossary:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/wine-oenology-...

And another one (with a different interpretation of "entrada (en boca)":
https://uvadoc.uva.es/bitstream/handle/10324/15763/TFG_F_201...
Barbara Cochran, MFA Jul 8, 2020:
Use More Than One Of The Alternatives Offered To avoid the redundancy that seems to have permeated the original Spanish-language text.
philgoddard Jul 8, 2020:
I think it may mean the beginning, the first thing you taste.

Proposed translations

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1 hr
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First impression /attack

In French there is 'entree en bouche' and via this I've found

The so- called “attack” is described by the sensations during the first 2-3 seconds when we put the wine in our mouth. This is the first impression of a wine, usually analyzed by the point of the tongue....

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Confirmation of the term 'attack':
The Attack Phase
This is the initial impression that the wine makes on your palate. The Attack is comprised of four pieces of the wine puzzle: alcohol content, tannin levels, acidity, and residual sugar. These four puzzle pieces display initial sensations on the palate. Ideally, these components will be well-balanced.31 mars 2019
Peer comment(s):
agree Carol Gullidge : w. Attack. And I too used to translate masses of French wine texts (including one book for a chateau!), and came to the same conclusion as you!
41 mins
agree philgoddard : I also found some hits for "entry".
1 hr
agree Jane Martin : I think you are right.
11 hrs
agree Rebecca Reddin : This is definitely conventional winespeak for the taster's experience of the first few seconds of a wine.
11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Attack is what I used. Many thanks all."
11 mins

entry, entrance

yea, I think it's entry.
Reference:

http://https://www.spanishdict.com/translate/entrada

Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : I don't think your reference is very good, but I found some hits for this, and it seems the most obvious solution.
2 hrs
disagree Rebecca Reddin : I'm sorry, but that's not the term we use in wine in English.
12 hrs
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18 mins

in mouth sensation/tasting

Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : Based on the description in your Wikipedia reference.
7 mins
neutral Carol Gullidge : not the same as the initial impression, or "Attack"
1 hr
disagree Rebecca Reddin : Agreed with Carol, this is related to 'mouthfeel', but isn't the same as an initial impression.
12 hrs
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-1
14 mins

its intake

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/spanish-engli...

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It goes down smoothly.

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https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/benefits-of-wine

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'its ingestion"
Peer comment(s):
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : Your reference is about quantity consumed.
11 mins
You don't agree with "goes down smoothly"?
neutral ormiston : The intake of the wine goes down smoothly?!
1 hr
I never said that. Obviously, it's the wine that goes down smoothly.
disagree Rebecca Reddin : I'm sorry, but for marketing texts, we don't talk about wine intake or ingestion.
12 hrs
OK, Rebecca. I agree with your assessment, since I have actually translated creative marketing texts in the past.
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+2
1 hr

mouthfeel

The initial experience of the entry of wine into the mouth is called "mouthfeel".
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5YY0DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA298&lp...

Mouthfeel: Describes the sensation of wine in the mouth. Most descriptors are related to texture, for example: silky, smooth, velvety and rough. Mouthfeel is influenced by wine components, as acidity can be sharp, alcohol can be hot, tannins can be rough and sugar can be thick or cloying.
https://www.winespectator.com/glossary/index/id/GL_mouthfeel

Peer comment(s):
agree Cecilia Gowar : We were writing at the same time!
3 mins
neutral ormiston : Appropriate term but it doesn't include the 'initial' idea
15 mins
You are right and I have changed my mind!
agree mariana mendes
34 mins
agree Katarina Peters
46 mins
neutral philgoddard : I think the word "initial" in your first reference is wrong. I agree with the second reference.
1 hr
I think you are right, this is sensation in the mouth, not the initial sensation.
disagree Rebecca Reddin : As you've said, mouthfeel is specifically about texture, not the overall impression and not specifically during the first few seconds. I think you and Cecilia are close; it's related, but I think there's a better option.
11 hrs
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1 hr

mouthfeel

Mouthfeel: Describes the sensation of wine in the mouth. Most descriptors are related to texture, for example: silky, smooth, velvety and rough. Mouthfeel is influenced by wine components, as acidity can be sharp, alcohol can be hot, tannins can be rough and sugar can be thick or cloying.
https://www.winespectator.com/glossary/index/word/M
Peer comment(s):
agree Katarina Peters
43 mins
Thanks Katarina!
neutral Carol Gullidge : don't disagree with your description for mouthfeel; it's just that it's not the same as the initial impression, or Attack
54 mins
disagree Rebecca Reddin : While related, mouthfeel isn't about the taster's initial idea from the first few seconds, but rather their overall impression of texture specifically throughout the duration of time the wine is being experienced.
11 hrs
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