Jan 23, 2020 20:45
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English term
Shall pass as
English to French
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Inheritance
any property which, or an interest in which, is devised or bequeathed to the former spouse shall pass as if the former spouse had died on the date on which the marriage is dissolved unless a contrary intention appears in the will.
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Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +3 | sera alors dévolue comme si |
Adrian MM.
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Proposed translations
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Adrian MM.
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Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
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English term (edited):
shall pass as if
sera alors dévolue comme si
Declined
No sign of dévoluer ins the previous ProZ answers, though that's the commonest term I've seen in the context.
Reminds me of being stuck overnight in the Swinging Sixties in a cafeteria at Gare St. Lazare Station in Paris and a French woman patron screaming endlessly at a drunk Frenchman at the next table: 'vour pourrez passer pour un Anglais?' - to which I ended up retorting: 'ni moi de Londres. non plus!'.
Reminds me of being stuck overnight in the Swinging Sixties in a cafeteria at Gare St. Lazare Station in Paris and a French woman patron screaming endlessly at a drunk Frenchman at the next table: 'vour pourrez passer pour un Anglais?' - to which I ended up retorting: 'ni moi de Londres. non plus!'.
Example sentence:
[...] épouse, aucun de ces biens ne lui sera dévolu; la succession du mari sera alors dévolue comme si son épouse l'avait prédécédé. apff.org [...] his property to his wife, none of it will devolve to her; his succession will devolve as if his w
Reference:
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/dévoluer
http://iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1579814785495/1
Peer comment(s):
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Cyril Tollari
: Oui, accord de dévolu à vérifier selon les noms qui précèdent
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Thanks and merci. I forgot to delete the 'e' (unless la succession), and thought the ending might be 's' for property if to agree with a translation as les biens..// D'accord - hope you 'enjoyed' the anecdote, soit 'l'histoire de Gare St. Lazare'
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erwan-l
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Thanks de novo et merci de nouveau!
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Eliza Hall
: What's with the "alors"? Also, "dévoluer" doesn't exist, and in your translation it should be "dévolus," not -ue or -u. Masculine because "bien," plural because "bien... ou intérêt" and see link: http://bdl.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/bdl/gabarit_bdl.asp?id=1460
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I think I'll rely on native French speakers and not any comments motivated by personal animosity https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/dévoluer post the anodyne answer of transmettre if you are so minded.
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ph-b (X)
: avec « dévolu » ici (+ accord évidemment en fonction du reste de la phrase).
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Thanks de novo et merci de nouveau pour la sagesse dévolue et transmise !
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Discussion
The Larousse is the same: https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/dévoluer
The Centre National de Ressources Textuelles et Lexicales is the same: https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/dévoluer
The dictionary of the Académie Française is the same: https://www.dictionnaire-academie.fr/
Finding 1 or 2 websites that use "dévoluer" as a verb does not somehow prove that French dictionaries are wrong.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-french/law-general/298...