English term
31 years experience with thanks.
Native in: Japanese (Variant: Standard-Japan) 
Works in: Japanese to English, English to Japanese
all
Should "all of the" in the first line be changed to "all the" students"?
Because "all the" is formal compared with "all of the".
Thank you.
| 4 +5 | for all students |
Mark Robertson
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| 4 +1 | for all of the school students |
B D Finch
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Aug 26, 2019 06:13: philgoddard changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (3): Edith Kelly, Tony M, philgoddard
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Translations by lawyers for lawyers
Native in: English 
Works in: Portuguese to English, English
for all students
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Tony M
2 hrs
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| agree |
philgoddard
3 hrs
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| agree |
Edith Kelly
4 hrs
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| agree |
satrans
5 hrs
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| agree |
Omri Ofek Luzon
1 day 3 hrs
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for all of the school students
As this stands, it differentiates between the action to be taken for the school students and that to be taken for the correspondence students. So, it would be wrong to change "school students" to "students".
The use of definite articles indicates that these are specific school students and specific correspondence students, i.e. not school students in general. If that is not what was intended, then the definite articles should be omitted.
| Thank you very much. The rest of the content does not indicate the specific school students. |
| agree |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: It depends on whether the source language makes that distinction.//I didn't notice that it is English to English, not a translation.
3 hrs
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Thanks Tina. The distinction is there in the wording as posted. It depends whether the rest of the context shows that the distinction was intended.
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Discussion
If you mean all students, globally, then you don't want a def. article: "All students have to go to school tll they reach 16"
But if you mean all of some particular group of students, which is a subset of 'all students', then you must use the article: "Following the sit-in, all of the students [that were involved in it] knew they would be punished."
From the small amount of context give, it seems to me you are talking in a global sense, hence no def. art.
Thank you.