Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Ausnahme sind Lieferungen per Spedition oder Spezialtransport.

English translation:

Exceptions are freight forwarder and special transport shipments.

Added to glossary by Claudia Letizia
Jun 3, 2019 12:52
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German term

Ausnahme sind Lieferungen per Spedition oder Spezialtransport.

German to English Bus/Financial Transport / Transportation / Shipping Delivery Costs/Options
It is part of the Terms and Conditions of a company that sells clothes, but also sports items and even some pieces of furniture.
"Bei über 1,20 m Länge und Sperrgut - unser Kundenservice meldet sich hierzu nach der Bestellung bei Ihnen. Ausnahme sind Lieferungen per Spedition oder Spezialtransport"

I understand more or less what Spedition and Spezialtransport are, but I don't know what they are called in English.

Thanks for your help :)
Change log

Jun 3, 2019 13:05: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Bus/Financial"

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Jun 4, 2019:
Now, regarding exceptions, customer service cannot call you because, as you said, they don't handle the details. Another (logistics) business will.

Also, I don't have an issue with your word order. It's pretty common in the US in other cases (journalism), where you'd begin a sentence with "Among them are..."

In fact, here's a US example:
"...depending on the shipping method selected and final destination of the order. Exceptions are express shipping paid by customers which are 5 business days."
https://highstreetwhistles.com/pages/shipping-and-returns

Similarly:
"Delivery exceptions are college campuses, federal government facilities..."
https://www.octaviawellness.com/faq

And so on.

I'll agree with you, though Adrian makes a good point about haulage, IMO, and maybe something like "special delivery services" for the second bit:
[Edit: Better link.] https://www.koolmaxgroup.com/delivery

Best wishes and enjoy your day
Björn Vrooman Jun 4, 2019:
Thanks, Darin! (also @Phil) I mean it. Many of the questions where I'm trying to help are ones that may be useful to me later. Not discussing any of them will greatly diminish the value of this forum.

"...occurs when some other service provider is already handling the details."

Yes, I think you nailed it. The point is that I believe I found Claudia's website and there's one thing about the context she didn't mention:
It's a paragraph about delivery fees.

It says Versandkosten in the sentence before the one she posted and the one she posted starts with another word and a colon.

"Zuschläge: Bei über 1,20 m Länge und Sperrgut - unser Kundenservice meldet sich hierzu nach der Bestellung bei Ihnen. Ausnahme sind Lieferungen per Spedition oder Spezialtransport."

I think this means customer service will call you if you have what is known in the US as an oversized [whatever]:
"Oversized items are large products that must ship through a freight carrier based on meeting one or more of the following criteria"
https://help.overstock.com/help/s/article/Oversized-Item-Del...

That's said in the first bit of the sentence (and it is what you need the freight carrier for).

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Darin Fitzpatrick Jun 3, 2019:
Well, Björn, we still can! I would amend my suggestion to “freight forwarder” rather than “freight carrier.” It seems that the exception (to receiving a phone call from customer service) occurs when some other service provider is already handling the details. That sounds more like a forwarder than a carrier.
Claudia Letizia (asker) Jun 3, 2019:
Sorry guys I know, sorry, I would have loved to have more time.
And you are right, I haven't closed it! I thought I could, but I can't. I'll do that once the 24h have passed.
Björn Vrooman Jun 3, 2019:
Pity We could have talked about the difference between carrier and forwarder:
https://www.brwilliams.com/blog/difference-freight-companies...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spedition
https://www.vardea.de/unterschied-frachtfuehrer-spediteur
https://www.schwaben.ihk.de/produktmarken/Branchen_und_Netzw...

Or whether special transport is really the best solution:
https://www.saloodo.com/de/logistik-lexikon/spezialtransport

Next time.

@Phil
Once upon a time, people waited at least 24 hours, so they'd know for sure what to post in the glossary.

Best and enjoy your day
philgoddard Jun 3, 2019:
You haven't closed it. But it's courtesy to leave the question open and award points.
Claudia Letizia (asker) Jun 3, 2019:
Tight deadline Hi, sorry if I closed the question already. The deadline was really tight and I had to deliver it already, so there is no point keeping it open. Thanks everybody for the help. It was precious :)
Claudia Letizia (asker) Jun 3, 2019:
context Hi Phil. This is all the context there is.
For items that are bulky or more than 1.20 long, customer service will call the customers. But this rule doesn't apply in case of "Spedition" and "Spezialtransport", which I know are two types of shipping services used for especially big items. But I don't know much more about them, nor what they are called in any other language. ;)
Klaus Conrad Jun 3, 2019:
Spedition might be delivery company or transport company and Spezialtransporte could be special transports.

Perhaps:
Exceptions are deliveries by a transport company and special transports.

In fact, the German text is not very well, so it also might be
Deliveries by a transport company and special transports are excluded.
philgoddard Jun 3, 2019:
I don't understand "Ausnahme sind". This may be because the German is not clearly written, or it could be due to insufficient context. Could you give us a bit more of the surrounding text, please?

Proposed translations

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Exceptions are freight carrier and special transport shipments.

I believe this conveys the intent of the original. There is a standard rule, and there are two exceptions noted.


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Note added at 7 hrs (2019-06-03 20:52:03 GMT)
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Better would be “freight forwarder “ rather than “freight carrier.” H/T Björn!
Note from asker:
Thanks Darin! This is exactly what I was looking for :)
Peer comment(s):

agree Michael Martin, MA
10 mins
Thanks!
agree writeaway
20 mins
Danke!
agree Björn Vrooman : See discussion.
23 hrs
Thanks, Björn!
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This does not apply to...

It's an exclusion thing - it means something like
"This does not apply to deliveries made by haulage companies or by special transportation"
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : indeed. I must admit I really don't understand the problem. special transport (not special transportation)
10 mins
agree Michael Martin, MA : With writeaway. Claudia seems more worried about "Spedition" and "Spezialtransport", but both parts of your sentence sound good to me. I would tweak only if she wants US English.
26 mins
agree Jennifer Caisley : Agree ; 'this does not apply to' sounds much more natural to my ear than following the German word-for-word.
3 hrs
agree Teresa Reinhardt
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Deliveries sent by freight forwarding (vs. haulage) or separate carriage are an exception (to this).

Exceptions are ... or .....are an exception: the linguistic theory of rheme-theme that some us learned in the structure of modern German - as opposed to the classical theory of subject-verb-object - suggests that words order ought to be reversed.

Also Spedition can be a combined road-air-waterway affair rather than purely by road.

Although I have worked in export in London for a 'well-known department store in Knightsbridge' and a multinational factory, once at Battersea Wharf, I tend to avoid arguably ambiguous by-sea terms like 'shipment' as opposed to 'shipping out goods' (ex-warehouse), unless qualifed as 'ocean-going' or 'by waterway'.
Example sentence:

not a journey as such but part of his work as an international haulage driver holding a Community road haulier licence. eur-lex.europa.eu [...] Güterkraftverkehr ist, die durch eine Gemeinschaftslizenz für den grenzüberschreitenden Güterkraftverkeh

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