Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Aug 13, 2018 13:44
5 yrs ago
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French term
génie
French to English
Other
Religion
Context: Tous sont des résidences de génies, dont les responsables ont indiqué que le déplacement pouvait être envisagé, bien qu’il n’ait pas toujours été possible d’en préciser les conditions.
This is a document about relocation of residents of a mining area in Africa. It really does not seem to fit under the concept of engineering, but simultaneously, I do not believe the author is calling them geniuses.
This is a document about relocation of residents of a mining area in Africa. It really does not seem to fit under the concept of engineering, but simultaneously, I do not believe the author is calling them geniuses.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +7 | spirit | philgoddard |
4 -1 | genius | S. Marcotte |
Change log
Aug 13, 2018 13:58: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Other"
Aug 13, 2018 16:50: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "genie" to "génie"
Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
genie
Selected
spirit
Here's a similar document, which makes it clear that this is about a construction project passing through areas of religious significance that must be protected.
En plus de se conformer à la législation nationale pertinente relative à la protection du patrimoine culturel, L’UGP identifiera et protègera le patrimoine culturel en veillant à l’application des pratiques reconnues au plan international . sur l’ensemble du corridor du tracé de la ligne électrique en Guinée, ce sont six sites qui ont été identifiés dans la zone d’exclusion
totale : ***(i) Trois sites de résidences de génies, dont deux avec pratiques sacrificielles, (ii) Unlieu de fétiche, (iii) Un site religieux (cimetière)**
http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Environ...
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/génie
En plus de se conformer à la législation nationale pertinente relative à la protection du patrimoine culturel, L’UGP identifiera et protègera le patrimoine culturel en veillant à l’application des pratiques reconnues au plan international . sur l’ensemble du corridor du tracé de la ligne électrique en Guinée, ce sont six sites qui ont été identifiés dans la zone d’exclusion
totale : ***(i) Trois sites de résidences de génies, dont deux avec pratiques sacrificielles, (ii) Unlieu de fétiche, (iii) Un site religieux (cimetière)**
http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Environ...
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/génie
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Otherwise known in some contexts as 'djinns'
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Which is very useful in Scrabble and almost nowhere else.
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AllegroTrans
: or indeed "genies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(disambiguation)
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B D Finch
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Rachel Fell
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JohnMcDove
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: You could use "djinns" in inverted commas with "genies" afterwards... in the hope that the term will be understood, perhaps known to a few. In an equal hope that it will not conjure up (no pun intended) refs to "jeans".
1 day 59 mins
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Daryo
2 days 14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Phil, you nailed it. Later in the translation, it became very clear that the translation was "genie.'"
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2 hrs
French term (edited):
genie
genius
Under the heading "Archeology", Termium offers "genius" as "a demon or spirit, as Ariel in Shakespeare."
http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2018-08-13 16:08:57 GMT)
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Wikipedia agrees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_(mythology)
http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2018-08-13 16:08:57 GMT)
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Wikipedia agrees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_(mythology)
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: If this term occurred specifically in a specialist context of mythology, that might be acceptable; but used in isolation in this more general context, I think this would be highly unsuitable and lead to immense confusion.
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That's why you back it up with the archeology context.
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AllegroTrans
: Geniuses living everywhere? I don't think so; you have found an ancient word which is no longer used in the same context
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Rachel Fell
: agree with AllegroTrans - genies maybe, but not geniuses
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Daryo
: might be - at a stretch - right, but for a different target audience - this ST is not meant for archaeologists / ethnologists or similar, but for bankers, politicians and other assorted very down to earth characters more interested in money than science.
2 days 12 hrs
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Discussion
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/R_Ch12_Culturel_FR.pdf
"These places were thought to be residences of spirits, jinn or afrit".
https://joshuaproject.net/assets/media/booklets/ad2000-arabi... (p 5)
"What Are Genies?"
https://www.livescience.com/59664-genies-jinn-facts.html
"A total of 230 Cultural Heritage sites were encountered and listed. Among them:
156 sites are genies’ residences;
73 are burial sites"
https://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Enviro...