Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

génie

English translation:

spirit

Added to glossary by Neal Allen
Aug 13, 2018 13:44
5 yrs ago
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French term

génie

French to English Other Religion
Context: Tous sont des résidences de génies, dont les responsables ont indiqué que le déplacement pouvait être envisagé, bien qu’il n’ait pas toujours été possible d’en préciser les conditions.

This is a document about relocation of residents of a mining area in Africa. It really does not seem to fit under the concept of engineering, but simultaneously, I do not believe the author is calling them geniuses.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +7 spirit
4 -1 genius
Change log

Aug 13, 2018 13:58: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Other"

Aug 13, 2018 16:50: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "genie" to "génie"

Discussion

Nikki Scott-Despaigne Aug 14, 2018:
genie As in "of the lamp".
Kevin Oheix Aug 13, 2018:
"des sites habités par des génies et des esprits"
http://www.riotinto.com/documents/R_Ch12_Culturel_FR.pdf

"These places were thought to be residences of spirits, jinn or afrit".
https://joshuaproject.net/assets/media/booklets/ad2000-arabi... (p 5)

"What Are Genies?"
https://www.livescience.com/59664-genies-jinn-facts.html

"A total of 230 Cultural Heritage sites were encountered and listed. Among them:
 156 sites are genies’ residences;
 73 are burial sites"
https://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Enviro...

Proposed translations

+7
10 mins
French term (edited): genie
Selected

spirit

Here's a similar document, which makes it clear that this is about a construction project passing through areas of religious significance that must be protected.

En plus de se conformer à la législation nationale pertinente relative à la protection du patrimoine culturel, L’UGP identifiera et protègera le patrimoine culturel en veillant à l’application des pratiques reconnues au plan international . sur l’ensemble du corridor du tracé de la ligne électrique en Guinée, ce sont six sites qui ont été identifiés dans la zone d’exclusion
totale : ***(i) Trois sites de résidences de génies, dont deux avec pratiques sacrificielles, (ii) Unlieu de fétiche, (iii) Un site religieux (cimetière)**

http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Environ...

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/génie
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Otherwise known in some contexts as 'djinns'
15 mins
Which is very useful in Scrabble and almost nowhere else.
agree AllegroTrans : or indeed "genies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(disambiguation)
29 mins
agree B D Finch
53 mins
agree Rachel Fell
6 hrs
agree JohnMcDove
15 hrs
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : You could use "djinns" in inverted commas with "genies" afterwards... in the hope that the term will be understood, perhaps known to a few. In an equal hope that it will not conjure up (no pun intended) refs to "jeans".
1 day 59 mins
agree Daryo
2 days 14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Phil, you nailed it. Later in the translation, it became very clear that the translation was "genie.'"
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2 hrs
French term (edited): genie

genius

Under the heading "Archeology", Termium offers "genius" as "a demon or spirit, as Ariel in Shakespeare."

http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2018-08-13 16:08:57 GMT)
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Wikipedia agrees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_(mythology)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : If this term occurred specifically in a specialist context of mythology, that might be acceptable; but used in isolation in this more general context, I think this would be highly unsuitable and lead to immense confusion.
9 mins
That's why you back it up with the archeology context.
disagree AllegroTrans : Geniuses living everywhere? I don't think so; you have found an ancient word which is no longer used in the same context
1 hr
neutral Rachel Fell : agree with AllegroTrans - genies maybe, but not geniuses
4 hrs
neutral Daryo : might be - at a stretch - right, but for a different target audience - this ST is not meant for archaeologists / ethnologists or similar, but for bankers, politicians and other assorted very down to earth characters more interested in money than science.
2 days 12 hrs
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