Aug 9, 2018 07:00
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German term
Austria
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 3 more.
bei Vorkultur
German to English
Science
Botany
Abstände: Reihenabstand 40 cm und in der Reihe 30 cm
Saatgutbedarf: ca. 50 g/a bei Direktsaat, ca. 15 g/a bei Vorkultur; TKG 5 g
in the case of pre-cultivation? / for pre-cultivation?
Saatgutbedarf: ca. 50 g/a bei Direktsaat, ca. 15 g/a bei Vorkultur; TKG 5 g
in the case of pre-cultivation? / for pre-cultivation?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | when starting seeds indoors |
Herbmione Granger
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| 4 -1 | sowing |
liz askew
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| 3 | starting seeds under cover |
Wendy Streitparth
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| 3 | indoor seeding |
Ramey Rieger (X)
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Proposed translations
+2
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Herbmione Granger
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
An American scholar based in Germany
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: French to English, German to English, English
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24
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when starting seeds indoors
It's the opposite of Direktsaat.
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https://praxistipps.focus.de/direktsaat-oder-vorkultur-das-s...
https://www.seedsnow.com/blogs/news/direct-sow
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One should expect different germination rates. About 3:1 nursed/direct-sown is reasonable.
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Phil Goddard and Heike Holthaus agree that this is how people normally express this.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/botany/6549704-...
Alternatively, 'using seed starting trays'.
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/start-tomato-seeds-indoors-usi...
From my seed packet for Zucchini, something grown in the region:
Aussaat: Mitte April Vorkultur in Aussaatgefaessen im Haus, Mitte Mai bis Juni ins Freiland.
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Plain ' for transplanting' might suite you better.
https://www.growingformarket.com/articles/Growing-fennel-bul...
There are about 200 seeds per gram, 7,000 seeds per ounce. The average direct seeding rate is 1000 seeds/100', 700'/ounce, or an average of 4,000 transplants/ounce of seed. Each diner could eat up to five fennel bulbs over a season.
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Bei + [Methode] often means 'using', for example, bei Chromatographie. 'With chromatography' means doing X using chromatography. Therefore, there is no difference in meaning.
In your cases, mit/bei Vorkultur means starting seeds in containers, raising them to seedlings/immature plants and, finally, transplanting them, usually spacing them further apart in the earth. We don't have a term for all this in English, but if you say 'starting indoors' or 'for transplanting', especially as a contrast with 'direct seeding/sowing', in the seeding instructions, it would be understood as if doing the whole process.
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-08-09 08:53:37 GMT)
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https://praxistipps.focus.de/direktsaat-oder-vorkultur-das-s...
https://www.seedsnow.com/blogs/news/direct-sow
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-08-09 08:58:19 GMT)
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One should expect different germination rates. About 3:1 nursed/direct-sown is reasonable.
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Note added at 9 hrs (2018-08-09 16:06:01 GMT)
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Phil Goddard and Heike Holthaus agree that this is how people normally express this.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/botany/6549704-...
Alternatively, 'using seed starting trays'.
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/start-tomato-seeds-indoors-usi...
From my seed packet for Zucchini, something grown in the region:
Aussaat: Mitte April Vorkultur in Aussaatgefaessen im Haus, Mitte Mai bis Juni ins Freiland.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2018-08-09 21:24:05 GMT)
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Plain ' for transplanting' might suite you better.
https://www.growingformarket.com/articles/Growing-fennel-bul...
There are about 200 seeds per gram, 7,000 seeds per ounce. The average direct seeding rate is 1000 seeds/100', 700'/ounce, or an average of 4,000 transplants/ounce of seed. Each diner could eat up to five fennel bulbs over a season.
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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs (2018-08-10 09:21:18 GMT)
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Bei + [Methode] often means 'using', for example, bei Chromatographie. 'With chromatography' means doing X using chromatography. Therefore, there is no difference in meaning.
In your cases, mit/bei Vorkultur means starting seeds in containers, raising them to seedlings/immature plants and, finally, transplanting them, usually spacing them further apart in the earth. We don't have a term for all this in English, but if you say 'starting indoors' or 'for transplanting', especially as a contrast with 'direct seeding/sowing', in the seeding instructions, it would be understood as if doing the whole process.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Anne Schulz
: Yes, "indoor seed starting" looks most promising on the www
8 hrs
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Thanks, Anne! I've seen Vorkultur used this way very often.
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Lancashireman
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Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "vielen Dank!"
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1 hr
sowing
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/468304061239794381/
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Only the best seeds - Bobby Seeds online shop - Aster Madeleine ...
https://www.bobby-seeds.com/Aster-Madeleine::1974.html?produ...
Athesis: July - October, Sowing: March / April. 1 pack contains ... Aussaat von März bis Ende April mit Vorkultur bei etwa 20 ° C. Pflanzabstand ca. 20 x 30 cm.
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sorry
that should be
by sowing
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-08-09 08:29:09 GMT)
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Only the best seeds - Bobby Seeds online shop - Aster Madeleine ...
https://www.bobby-seeds.com/Aster-Madeleine::1974.html?produ...
Athesis: July - October, Sowing: March / April. 1 pack contains ... Aussaat von März bis Ende April mit Vorkultur bei etwa 20 ° C. Pflanzabstand ca. 20 x 30 cm.
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sorry
that should be
by sowing
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Herbmione Granger
: Sowing is Aussaat. Vorkultur refers to starting plants in containers and then transplanting them to the ground.
19 mins
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| disagree |
Armorel Young
: How would you then distinguish it from Direktsaat? //"bei" has all sorts of different meanings/translations, depending on context - just think of "bei uns", "bei Bedarf", "bei der Arbeit", "bei diesem Wetter", "beim Schreiben" - none of those is "by"
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mit = with, bei = by doesn't it? Well, by sowing is perfectly good English.
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Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
45 years experience
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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56
starting seeds under cover
The seeds don't need to be started "indoors" as the climate is usually warm enough. On the contrary the beans need shade.
https://www.barry-callebaut.com/stories/cocoa-nurseries-prog...
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You could use propagation.
To propagate from seed, sow the seed in pots in the late winter or early spring in a cold frame.
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/chiwonlee/plsc368/student/papers...
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...you may want to get a head start for the growing season by sowing under cover...
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=999
There are basically two methods of sowing seeds; sowing under cover and direct sowing outside.
https://www.seasonalgardening.co.uk/propagating_from_seed.ht...
Sowing under cover. Hardy crops that are usually grown outdoors can be sown under cloches or in the soil beds of a greenhouse or polytunnel
https://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/what-sow-and-plant-february
...you may want to get a head start for the growing season by sowing under cover...
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=999
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And now directly related to cocoa!
Nursery bed is the name for the place where the seeds are sown to make them germinate.
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A good grower should sow cocoa seeds in nursery beds:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/AD220E/AD220E02.htm
https://www.barry-callebaut.com/stories/cocoa-nurseries-prog...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2018-08-09 19:36:36 GMT)
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You could use propagation.
To propagate from seed, sow the seed in pots in the late winter or early spring in a cold frame.
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/chiwonlee/plsc368/student/papers...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2018-08-09 19:46:32 GMT)
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...you may want to get a head start for the growing season by sowing under cover...
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=999
There are basically two methods of sowing seeds; sowing under cover and direct sowing outside.
https://www.seasonalgardening.co.uk/propagating_from_seed.ht...
Sowing under cover. Hardy crops that are usually grown outdoors can be sown under cloches or in the soil beds of a greenhouse or polytunnel
https://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/what-sow-and-plant-february
...you may want to get a head start for the growing season by sowing under cover...
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=999
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Note added at 12 hrs (2018-08-09 19:53:06 GMT)
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And now directly related to cocoa!
Nursery bed is the name for the place where the seeds are sown to make them germinate.
...
A good grower should sow cocoa seeds in nursery beds:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/AD220E/AD220E02.htm
23 hrs
indoor seeding
Or early (indoor) cultivation - the term Vorziehen would be the German equivalent.
Reference comments
8 hrs
Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
45 years experience
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
56
Reference:
As a general rule, cacao trees get their start in a nursery bed
where seeds from high yielding trees are planted in fiber baskets
or plastic bags.
http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treesandmarkets/inaforesta/...
where seeds from high yielding trees are planted in fiber baskets
or plastic bags.
http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treesandmarkets/inaforesta/...
Discussion
If you want something more international, crop scientists use direct seeding vs transplanting. https://www.cropsreview.com/methods-of-planting.html
So "Amount of seed needed for direct seeding: , for transplanting: ."