Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
defensoria
English translation:
public defender service
Added to glossary by
Roxane Dow
May 3, 2018 23:28
6 yrs ago
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Portuguese term
United States
ATA Certified, M.A. in Translation
Native in: English 
Works in: Portuguese to English, Spanish to English
defensoria
Portuguese to English
Medical
Medical: Health Care
Organizations relating to health care in Brazil
Conversation between customer and customer service representative in Brazil. They are discussing a drug that the customer cannot locate in any pharmacy.
Customer says:
É que no caso a gente consegue pela defensoria, né?
Eles já forneceram o dinheiro da compra do medicamento, mas a gente não está encontrando...
What is the defensoria in this case, when it provides payments to people so that they can buy a medication?
Customer says:
É que no caso a gente consegue pela defensoria, né?
Eles já forneceram o dinheiro da compra do medicamento, mas a gente não está encontrando...
What is the defensoria in this case, when it provides payments to people so that they can buy a medication?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | public defender service |
Claudio Mazotti
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| 4 +1 | legal aid |
Matheus Chaud
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| 5 | prescription assistance |
Nick Taylor
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| 3 +1 | public assistance/aid |
Muriel Vasconcellos
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Proposed translations
17 hrs
Claudio Mazotti
Brazil
Brazil
Native in Portuguese
Brazil
my motto:professionalism and dedication.
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: Brazilian)
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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52
Selected
public defender service
Federal Public Defender - BrazilGovNews
www.brazilgovnews.gov.br/federal.../federal-public-defender
4 de ago de 2016 - Citizens who require legal, judicial and out-of-court assistance and that can prove a lack of money legal can count on the free services of the Defensoria Pública da União - Federal Public Defender (DPU). The organ guarantees access to justice by permitting a reasonable defense in which the individual ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender
A public defender is an attorney appointed to represent people who cannot afford to hire one. The term is a false friend of the Spanish-language title defensor del pueblo, which refers to an ombudsman, except in that public defender is the English-language title of the Jamaican ombudsman. Brazil is the only country where ...
www.brazilgovnews.gov.br/federal.../federal-public-defender
4 de ago de 2016 - Citizens who require legal, judicial and out-of-court assistance and that can prove a lack of money legal can count on the free services of the Defensoria Pública da União - Federal Public Defender (DPU). The organ guarantees access to justice by permitting a reasonable defense in which the individual ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender
A public defender is an attorney appointed to represent people who cannot afford to hire one. The term is a false friend of the Spanish-language title defensor del pueblo, which refers to an ombudsman, except in that public defender is the English-language title of the Jamaican ombudsman. Brazil is the only country where ...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "In the end, I thought it best to stick to the meaning of the source phrase and add a footnote about its function in Brazil."
+1
16 mins
Matheus Chaud
Brazil
Brazil
Native in Portuguese
Brazil
IT Specialist • M.A. in Linguistics
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: Brazilian) 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Spanish to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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24
legal aid
Sometimes the government is supposed to provide certain types of medication to low-income citizens, but fails to.
In this case, the citizen contacts the "defensoria pública", which is a legal aid (or legal assistance) entity that enforces the law. The defensoria pública helps guarantee the rights of every citizen.
Here is a very interesting article about the role of the defensoria pública in Brazil:
http://justificando.cartacapital.com.br/2015/06/18/afinal-qu...
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Note added at 17 mins (2018-05-03 23:46:33 GMT)
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The most important sentence in the article, in my opinion:
O direito fundamental à assistência jurídica integral e gratuita (...) é exercido pela Defensoria Pública
Peer comment(s):
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ulissescarvalho
: Correto, mas pra que traduzir? Se é o nome de um órgão público é um nome. Fica como está.
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Da mesma forma que é prática comum colocar uma tradução explicativa ao lado de ANVISA (National Health Surveillance Agency), acho essencial traduzir. Se deixar o termo em português, em um texto em inglês, ninguém vai saber do que se trata.
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Nick Taylor
13 hrs
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Obrigado, Nick!
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Margarida Ataide
1 day 22 hrs
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Obrigado, Margarida!
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Oliver Simões
: Matheus, concordo com você que é preciso traduzir. Caso contrário, o leitor pode não entender. Quanto à tradução apresentada, tenho outra sugestão, que adicionei nos comentários.
2 days 6 hrs
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+1
57 mins
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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155
public assistance/aid
It may not be the correct translation of "defensoria", but I think this idea fits the context better.
Peer comment(s):
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ulissescarvalho
: Desculpe, mas também não é isso. Não retrata a função da defensoria.
11 hrs
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Please note the context.
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Nick Taylor
13 hrs
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Thank you, Nick!
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Gilmar Fernandes
: The closest equivalent to a US target readership....I would put in a footnote explaining the concept of "defensoria" depending on the type of document and formality required.
4 days
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Thank you, Gilmar!
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7 hrs
Nick Taylor
Native in English
Portuguese to English, English to Portug
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, English to Portuguese
Related KudoZ points
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21
prescription assistance
prescription assistance
Peer comment(s):
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ulissescarvalho
: Absolutamente nada a ver com a função da defensoria pública. Nada a ver.
4 hrs
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How can you be so sure? perhaps its because you have 24 whole points compared to my 6500!
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Mario Freitas
: Ulisses, aqui no ProZ, a gente não fica só discordando dos colegas em todas as perguntas. Aliás, a gente nem usa o "disagree". Você está criando uma imagem extremamente antipática no site.
10 hrs
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Discussion
"Our mission is to provide highly skilled and competent legal representation to protect the fundamental rights of all individuals by vigorously and effectively representing indigent persons who have been determined by the Court to be eligible for our services."
indigent: poor, needy
Suponho que a pessoa que precisa do(s) medicamento(s) seja considerada indigente. Ou não?
According to the law, low-income families are entitled to certain types of medication. If law is being disrespected (ex.: if the high-cost drug program fails to provide such drugs), people seek the defensoria pública for help.
I'm glad the answer was somehow helpful. Good luck with your translation!
@Muriel,
I'm not sure if legal aid would be the perfect equivalent in English, but the defensoria pública is, indeed, a law entity that provides free legal advice:
http://justificando.cartacapital.com.br/2015/06/18/afinal-qu...
O direito fundamental à assistência jurídica integral e gratuita (...) é exercido pela Defensoria Pública.
I saw the translation defensoria pública = legal aid, legal advice in several websites, and it seemed very reasonable to me, but different opinions are always welcome.
"defensoria pública" "legal aid":
https://www.google.com.br/search?q="defensoria pública""lega...