Oct 22, 2017 22:20
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Spanish term

elementos de deslizamiento y de compensación de juego

Spanish to English Other Furniture / Household Appliances Work bench for circular saws
Hi all,

I'm translating pages on a retail site from Spanish (Spain) into British English and am having trouble with one section of a product description relating to a work bench for circular saws.

Here is a link to the product in question: https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0725759P4.

The tricky phrase appears in the following sentence: 'El tope angular está equipado con elementos de deslizamiento y de compensación de juego guiados por resortes. Con él se pueden realizar cómodamente cortes angulares exactos de hasta 180° en serie.'

I've been on the manufacturer website and it provided the following translation: 'with spring-guided play compensation and gliding elements'.

I've done some further research and there doesn't seem to be any other products that have 'play compensation', so I have a feeling that it could have been MT'd. Could someone help please?

Many thanks!

Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Oct 23, 2017:
How Google Translate works Every time someone runs a translation, the system stores the result. That's how statistical systems are designed. So if Matthew already ran the phrase, everyone who runs the text again is going to get the same result.
Muriel Vasconcellos Oct 23, 2017:
Not a machine translation! The website is very well written using precise professional terminology. No chance that it's a machine translation. If I were you, I would copy its language wherever possible.
Muriel Vasconcellos Oct 23, 2017:
"juego de compensación" Your document may be a back-translation from original English. The "juego de compensación" appears to be a Spanish mistranslation. In this context, 'play' means movement of the guide due to an external force, usually a movement of the hand. Since in this case the movement is unintended, there's a spring to keep the guide steady and compensate for any "jiggling". Thus, the underlying meaning is 'compensation to accommodate play'. The Spanish is reversed.

(I struggled with this problem when I was learning mechanical drafting and would have appreciated having a spring to hold the guide in place.)

See Merriam-Webster:

(4) : free or unimpeded motion (as of a part of a machine) *this type of universal joint permits shaft end play— Joseph Heitner*; also : the length or measure of such motion *the cylinder has about an inch of play*

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spring-guided play compensation and gliding elements

This answer is copied from the company's English-language website. See: http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/machine_tables-3/mach...


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It's a German company, but I suspect your Spanish is a translation from the English website.

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Tons of references for 'compensation for play':

About 22,600 results (0.40 seconds)

MEMS: A Practical Guide of Design, Analysis, and Applications
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=3540336559
Jan Korvink, ‎Oliver Paul - 2010 - ‎Technology & Engineering
... integrated spring blade, cam reader, and **compensation for play**.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3472170
**High pressure gear pump or motor with compensation for play and wear** ... In order not to reduce the degree of mechanical efficiency, the sliding surface ...

www.google.com.pg/patents/DE3901967A1?cl=en
... and with a mechanical device for valve clearance disposal, using friction and .... so still will be **no compensation for play**.

Potentiometer Hall POH 120 - Metallux USA
www.metallux-usa.com/.../Hall_potentiometer_POH_120-Metallu...
**Compensation for play and tolerance** by decoupled axis possible ... Mechanical positioning range. 360° continuous rotation.
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Reference comments

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Machine tables „MASTER cut 2500 - Wolfcraft
www.wolfcraft.com › Products › Machine tables › Machine tables › Machine tables
Since it can be used as a work station, circular saw bench, guided circular saw ... **spring-guided play compensation and gliding elements**; circular hand saws ...
** This is a Google translation**



https://books.google.com.jm/books?id=ZIU4-UjfzYcC&pg=PA1399&...
Diccionario politécnico de las lenguas española e inglesa, Volume 1
**resorte de compensación de juego > take up spring**



wolfcraft 6906506 Master Cut 1500 - Precision Saw Table And Work ...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/wolfcraft-6906506-Master-Cut-1500/d...
Wolfcraft 6902506 Master Cut 2500, Precision Saw Table And Work Station, Black, Silver, ... Dirty Pro Tools™ Table Saw 8” Blade With Sliding Side Extension 240v ...
.....The angle stop permits a convenient series of angular cuts of up to 180°, while a new, ***spring-loaded gliding element** provides an optimal hold. Even large surfaces like doors or cupboards can be conveniently and precisely processed using the roller stands available separately.

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IMO, the word "compensation" is meaningless. I have added links below to suggestion that "compensación for resorte" is "spring balancing".

https://books.google.com.jm/books?id=31cagl0wNzEC&pg=PA510&l...
spring-loaded / con resorte de compensación


resorte - Traducción al inglés | Diccionario técnico - Dictindustry
es.dictindustry.com/español-inglés/resorte - Translate this page
recuperación de membrana a resorte · spring-loaded diaphragm return ... rebatible con compensación por resorte · retractable conveyor with spring balancing.


spring balancing - Traducción al español | Diccionario técnico
es.dictindustry.com/inglés-español/spring+balancing
wikipedia. spring balancing. wikipedia. compensación por resorte · retractable conveyor with spring balancing · paso rebatible con compensación por resorte.

In my third link above regarding the Master Cut 1500 series precision saw table, the translation was simply "spring-loaded gliding element" which appears to be a better translation than the one Matthew posted. Regards.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : The site looks very professional to me. 'Play compensation' is shorthand for 'compensation for play' - thousands of references. The Spanish was a mistranslation of the original English. See my comments in the Discussion.
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I disagree. I ran it again: "The angular stop is equipped with sliding elements and spring-guided play compensation"; AFAIA concerned, "play compensation" means nothing. Resorte de compensación de juego is a "take up spring" (Diccionario Politécnico).
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