Feb 23, 2017 03:08
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term
esquizofrenia de base
Spanish to English
Medical
Medical: Health Care
Case study
Evening everyone...
My initial thought for this was "underlying schizophrenia", but I'm not sure that is correct as the context really hasn't anything to do with an "underlying" disorder, rather it appears to a measure of the progression of the illness. The text only disorders the text mentions are schizophrenia and alcohol abuse; there are no others.
"El paciente se mantiene estable de su esquizofrenia de base y abstinente de alcohol."
Is this "baseline schizophrenia"? It doesn't have very many hits relative to the Spanish "esquizofrenia de base".
Thanks in advance for any help.
My initial thought for this was "underlying schizophrenia", but I'm not sure that is correct as the context really hasn't anything to do with an "underlying" disorder, rather it appears to a measure of the progression of the illness. The text only disorders the text mentions are schizophrenia and alcohol abuse; there are no others.
"El paciente se mantiene estable de su esquizofrenia de base y abstinente de alcohol."
Is this "baseline schizophrenia"? It doesn't have very many hits relative to the Spanish "esquizofrenia de base".
Thanks in advance for any help.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | underlying schizophrenia | Muriel Vasconcellos |
4 +2 | baseline schizophrenia | Amy Merrill |
2 | mild schizophrenia | Barbara Cochran, MFA |
2 | controlled schizophrenia / schizophrenia under control | Neil Ashby |
Proposed translations
+2
11 mins
baseline schizophrenia
Declined
I recently also came across this in a patient report. I'd say it's referring to the baseline of the patient's schizophrenia, which could either be referring to its initial known value - diagnosis, or the initial measured value at the start of monitoring/study.
Note from asker:
Many thanks, Amy, precisely the kind of information I'm after! |
Although, as I mentioned above, my only problem with this is that there seem to be relatively very few hits compared with the Spanish. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
gutiersa
: yes, baseline is the term we use
2 days 1 hr
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agree |
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
550 days
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1 hr
mild schizophrenia
Declined
Maybe, because the patient is able to stay stable, where if it were severe schizophrenia, that would be an impossibility.
+4
1 hr
underlying schizophrenia
Declined
I think you were right, Robert, before you started second-guessing yourself. My understanding is that the schizophrenia is complicated with alcohol abuse "on top," so to speak.
Examples:
www.healthyplace.com/thought.../why-schizophrenia-patients-... 19, 2012 - **These additional disorders can make the underlying schizophrenia more difficult to treat** and it's possible schizophrenia may even be ...
www.va.gov/vetapp07/files3/0724969.txtThus, the medical issue, on remand after the Court's March 2006 order vacating the Board's July 2005 decision, is **whether the underlying schizophrenia itself underwent chronic aggravation
or worsening during the veteran's active duty period.**
ink.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-76841-5_18
by MT Tsuang - 1991 - Cited by 85 - Related articles
It is suggested (Risch and Baron 1984; Tsuang and Faraone 1984) that **such traits or disorders may prove to be manifestations of the underlying “schizophrenia ...**
ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/5629467/5645057/05645097.pdf?arnumber=5645097
diagnose system or **uncover the underlying schizophrenia pathology**. II.HIGH ORDER PATTERN DISCOVERY. A. Pattern presentation. In traditional AI and ...
Examples:
www.healthyplace.com/thought.../why-schizophrenia-patients-... 19, 2012 - **These additional disorders can make the underlying schizophrenia more difficult to treat** and it's possible schizophrenia may even be ...
www.va.gov/vetapp07/files3/0724969.txtThus, the medical issue, on remand after the Court's March 2006 order vacating the Board's July 2005 decision, is **whether the underlying schizophrenia itself underwent chronic aggravation
or worsening during the veteran's active duty period.**
ink.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-76841-5_18
by MT Tsuang - 1991 - Cited by 85 - Related articles
It is suggested (Risch and Baron 1984; Tsuang and Faraone 1984) that **such traits or disorders may prove to be manifestations of the underlying “schizophrenia ...**
ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/5629467/5645057/05645097.pdf?arnumber=5645097
diagnose system or **uncover the underlying schizophrenia pathology**. II.HIGH ORDER PATTERN DISCOVERY. A. Pattern presentation. In traditional AI and ...
Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/medical_pharmac...
6 hrs
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Thank you, Liz. And thanks for the reference.
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agree |
veronicaes
9 hrs
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Thank you, Veronica.
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agree |
Robert Forstag
: Or, perhaps, "pre-existing."
12 hrs
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Thanks, Robert! Not sure we know that it pre-existed, but it is certainly more long-term and fundamental than the drinking.
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agree |
Leda Roche
21 hrs
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thanks, Denise!
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7 hrs
controlled schizophrenia / schizophrenia under control
Declined
My initial thinking was along the same lines as Jane. It's a chronic condition and in such cases you often see the expression "contolled" or "under control" (whether using meds or through psychiatry sessions, if that's possible).
"The patient is maintaining his schizophrenia under control and abstaining from alcohol."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26230269
Efficacy and tolerability of paliperidone ER in patients with unsatisfactorily controlled schizophrenia by other antipsychotics: a flexible-dose approach.
https://books.google.es/books?id=PPCPBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&lpg=PT...
Download - IAMAT
https://www.iamat.org/elibrary/download/id/1384
Refrain from using caffeine or psychoactive substances like alcohol or cannabis. Travellers who have managed and controlled schizophrenia can travel safely.
"The patient is maintaining his schizophrenia under control and abstaining from alcohol."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26230269
Efficacy and tolerability of paliperidone ER in patients with unsatisfactorily controlled schizophrenia by other antipsychotics: a flexible-dose approach.
https://books.google.es/books?id=PPCPBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&lpg=PT...
Download - IAMAT
https://www.iamat.org/elibrary/download/id/1384
Refrain from using caffeine or psychoactive substances like alcohol or cannabis. Travellers who have managed and controlled schizophrenia can travel safely.
Discussion
@Joe - The context is a very brief case study of a patient mentioning his history and various treatments and how his most recent treatment regimen is working effectively. In fact, this sentence relates to the effectiveness of the new treatment.
@Charles - As to how common the Spanish expression is, you are right, I only looked at Google's numbers instead of actually checking the number of results myself.
I think "baseline" could work here, but I actually fell back on "underlying" in the end, as I think there is a reasonable argument, as several of you have made, for using it. However, I'd still like to know what it actually means, and my sense is that it's something more akin to "baseline" as Amy mentions, or even "chronic" or "ongoing" as Joe mentions, in which case it could reasonably be omitted, as Dr. Jane and Lorena have said.
Once again, thanks for all your input.
I think you guys are overthinking this.
"Las patologías sadomasoquistas o el alcoholismo con esquizofrenia de base son ejemplos de enfermedades mentales que deben tratarse como tales"
http://www.ffyh.unc.edu.ar/alfilo/anteriores/alfilo-18/pdf/m...
Properly speaking, schizophrenia is a chronic condition per se, isn't it? I mean psychotic episodes are not really the same thing.