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Sep 10, 2016 05:43
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Spanish term

institutos y servicios de promoción, investigación y desarrollo

Spanish to English Other Economics Economic thesis paper (state-owned enterprises in Chile last century)
I'm translating this paper about state-owned enterprises in Chile last century and this phrase appears in this text:

"En su conjunto, para fines del decenio de 1960, había una diversidad de organizaciones en manos de distintos ministerios, en tanto que CORFO contaba con institutos y servicios de promoción, investigación y desarrollo en varios sectores de la economía."

I don't usually render "promoción" literally as "promotion" and there's no reference throughout the paper about "servicios de promoción." My thought is "institutes and service providers of advertising, research and development," but I doubt that [TV] advertising was a thing during the 1960s.

Thoughts on this?
Proposed translations (English)
4 institutes and services for advancement, research, and development
4 institutes and services of marketing, research and development
3 +1 bodies and offices for the promotion, research and development
4 -1 Marketing, research and development institutes and services
References
CORFO

Discussion

lorenab23 Sep 10, 2016:
@Seth Advertising was very much a thing in the 60s in LA and TV was very accessible in all big cities. Just a matter of not assuming and doing a bit of research ;-)
Muriel Vasconcellos Sep 10, 2016:
@Seth Yes, I traveled in Chile in the 1960s several times and they had TV there, too.
Seth Phillips (asker) Sep 10, 2016:
Thanks Muriel, very interesting to know. I was doubting mainly because my guandparents just got TV around the 40/50s and that possibly TV was not accessible in Latin America until later. Hopefully someone who has lived in Chile during that time can elaborate on Chilean TV advertising.
Muriel Vasconcellos Sep 10, 2016:
@Juan Carlos Early TV in the 1960s??? We had color TV in the 1960s and TV wasn't much different from what it is today. People had TVs in their homes in the early 1940s.
Muriel Vasconcellos Sep 10, 2016:
@Seth I'm here to tell you that TV advertising was alive and well at the end of the 1960s - and the 1950s and the 1940s for that matter. The only change has been that there were more restrictions back then - for example, ads for prescription drugs and medical services were not allowed, and the ads took up a smaller percentage of viewing time. I moved from the U.S. to Mexico City in 1971 and there were even more ads on Mexican TV, like 60% programming and 40% ads - which is what we have in the U.S. today.

Proposed translations

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institutes and services for advancement, research, and development

Creo que se trata de Promotion en el sentido de promulgar/fomentar/impulsar. encaja más con instituciones públicas y gubernamentales.
Note from asker:
Tiene mucho sentido. Había reconsiderado Advancement pues aparece como sinómino de Promotion y gracias a su sugestión me quedo reafirmado ;)
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institutes and services of marketing, research and development

I agree with your line of thinking so this is my best suggestion. In this context I think marketing would include both promotion and advertising (which in the 1960s could have been very early tv, or certainly radio, newspaper etc). A marketing department/institute is what this would mean.

Marketing here being: "the process or technique of promoting, selling, and distributing a product or service" (see link below), so an institute/services that do that.
Reference:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marketing

Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : But I would say 'for marketing...' See my note about your assumptions about TV in the 1960s. *Not* "early TV"! You're 20 years off. Programming in the 1960s was very similar to what we have today.
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disagree P Forgas : this has nothing to do with marketing
9 hrs
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bodies and offices for the promotion, research and development

Another suggestion.

I understand "institutos" as "bodies" and "services" as "offices"

https://www.google.pt/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&es...

https://books.google.pt/books?id=9g8iEFDap_MC&pg=PA172&lpg=P...

Example sentence:

In accordance with Article 6 of the Agreement, all administrative agencies, bodies and offices acting in the field of foreign affairs, national defence, finance, public

Reference:

https://books.google.pt/books?id=M8L5AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA447&lpg=PA447&dq=%22bodies+and+offices%22&source=bl&ots=SBP5pbWVo6&sig=qK4ykodX24SzYAZYGY

https://books.google.pt/books?id=FndeLBxD4oMC&pg=PP4&lpg=PP4&dq=%22bodies+and+offices%22&source=bl&ots=Nssl5s75Wb&sig=axqRKlfBLvdlA0kDRNC429

Peer comment(s):
agree P Forgas
8 hrs
Thank you, P Forgas!
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4 hrs

Marketing, research and development institutes and services

Same content, different syntax:

"... CORFO had marketing, research and development institutes and services in several sectors of the economy..."

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Note added at 4 hrs (2016-09-10 09:46:23 GMT)
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PS: I agree with Anna, in that "institute" may not be 100% appropriate, as it usually refers to an official body. However, my gist is the same.

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Note added at 2 days13 hrs (2016-09-12 19:22:59 GMT)
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NB: I meant to enter "promotional, research and development institutes and services", I don't know how "marketing" got there. Maybe I noticed it in Juan Carlos's suggestion...
Sorry!
Peer comment(s):
disagree P Forgas : marketing is a bad idea
6 hrs
You're right. I don't know how that crept in there. My bad...
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Reference comments

10 hrs
Reference:

CORFO

La Corporación de Fomento de la Producción (Corfo) es la agencia del Gobierno de Chile dependiente del Ministerio de Economía, Fomento y Turismo a cargo de apoyar el emprendimiento, la innovación y la competitividad en el país, con el objetivo de promover una sociedad de más y mejores oportunidades para todos, contribuyendo al desarrollo económico y combatiendo la desigualdad en Chile.

Actualmente Corfo cuenta con más de 50 programas que apoyan a 200 mil beneficiarios al año y que apuntan a convertir a Chile en un país más desarrollado hacia el fin de esta década.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporación_de_Fomento_de_la_P...

realmente no veo de dónde sale la idea de la TV aquí, a menos que me haya perdido algo.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2016-09-10 15:51:25 GMT)
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Fomento

3. m. Der. Acción de la Administración consistente en promover, normalmente mediante incentivos económicos o fiscales, que los particulares realicen por sí mismos actividades consideradas de utilidad general

http://dle.rae.es/?id=IB0lgQm


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Note added at 13 hrs (2016-09-10 19:40:42 GMT)
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Una vez que COFTO es una istitución de fomento, no consigo ver la posibilidad de que promoción se refiriera a publicidad, pero bué, lo dejo por aquí.

Feliz fin de semana a todos!
Note from asker:
La cuestión de TV surgió del término PROMOCIÓN por la posibilidad de referencia a la publicidad. Yo había visto estas referencias al respecto de CORFO, pero me consta que los mismos serán provechosos para demás que consulten por el presente.
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