French term
publier le contrat
Could it mean to declare or file the lease agreement?
Thanks in advance for you input.
4 +2 | disclose the contract (to the Court Registry) for registration | Adrian MM. (X) |
4 +1 | make the contract publicly available | Daryo |
3 +1 | register | Jackie Doble |
Apr 24, 2016 12:24: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Law/Patents" , "Field (write-in)" from "law" to "equipment leasing"
Non-PRO (2): writeaway, Yvonne Gallagher
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Proposed translations
disclose the contract (to the Court Registry) for registration
It is possible to register certain non-leasing contracts at the High Court in London (the Royal Courts of Justice on the Strand). Having done so myself on a number of occasions, I am not saying which because I want commentators on my answer to come up with constructive suggestions.
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I ask because the contract goes on to say the a copy of the "publication" must be sent to the other party = (court-searched) registration.
Les entreprises qui achètent des biens d’équipements en crédit-bail, par contrat de location ou contrat de vente assorti d'une clause de réserve de propriété voient leurs créanciers publier ces acquisitions au greffe du tribunal de commerce.
Cocher la publicité requise > référence de l’inscription principale
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Chakib Roula
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Thanks and merci, but you have now agreed with both answers.
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AllegroTrans
: Simply "register" - no need for "disclose"
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I agree, except it is 'publier .... au and not auprès du greffe'.
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Daryo
: "disclose" is maybe not the best choice for contracts, (do you "disclose" that you have sold your house to the Land Registry?) but the key idea is there "information made available to the public"
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make the contract publicly available
Thanks, Daryo. In that case, could we use the verb "to publish"? I ask because the contract goes on to say the a copy of the "publication" must be sent to the other party. |
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Chakib Roula
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Merci!
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AllegroTrans
: Over-translation: the procedure here is simply registration at the Commercial Court// it can be ontained by a search but it isn't "promulgated" so I think "publicly available" is really over-translation
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not exactly "registration" does NOT equate to "information made publicly available" / does it?
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register
Publish doesn't have the same meaning in English, as it tends to imply that the information is published and distributed in multiple copies (i.e. a newspaper) but here it the information is available to anyone who comes to look at the register.
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AllegroTrans
: Yes, simply
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Daryo
: the information is available to anyone who comes to look at the register = very brave assumption, might be true for many or most registers you had first in mind, but far from being true for ANY register!
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Yvonne Gallagher
: with AT here
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Reference comments
Example of use of the word "register" in relation to the tribunal de commerce
Commercial leases
Commercial leases are normally granted for the minimum term of nine years, and are subject to the mandatory legal regime laid down in the Commercial Code. The tenant must be registered with the Commercial Court registrar. A tenant has the right to terminate the lease at the end of each three-year period and also a right to renew the lease.
France
www.ibanet.org/Document/Default.aspx?DocumentUid=2D154B93.....
23 Mar 2006 - France. Enforcement of security interests in banking transactions ... entails various assets such as leasing rights (droit au bail), logo and corporate name, clientele and customers, commercial furniture, equipment and tools used for .... must be registered with a special registry of the Commercial Court where .
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Daryo
: all that is fine, but the verb used is "publier" not "enregistrer" // giving links to sites with restricted access http://www.ibanet.org/ is of a limited value - no ways to read the whole entry ...
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But this is not publication per se, it is registration into a publicly searchable register - look at the procedure rather than the word; it's often the way with legal translation
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Discussion
Hello Daryo and Adrian
I hope you are both well :):):)
Daryo's "registering" seems even better to me and may avoid Adrian's misgivings.
Regards
SafeTex
technically it's much closer to "registering" the contract, but OTOH not all "registered contracts"/"registers" of any kind are necessarily available for inspection by the public;
to make a parallel, not all registers of companies are open to public inspection to the same degree in all countries, so registering (a company) doesn't necessarily mean "publishing" much about it. (as we have been reminded lately ...)
one way or another the key point is that the contract becomes publicly available for those making a search at the Tribunal's registry.