Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

en presencia

English translation:

at issue; in the premises; in point

Added to glossary by Adrian MM. (X)
Jan 15, 2016 17:26
8 yrs ago
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Spanish term

en presencia

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general)
This comes from the legal grounds in an order from a court in Madrid. The text has been discussing the right to secrecy of communications and the right to personal privacy:

Ambos derechos en presencia - el derecho al secreto de las comunicaciones y el derecho a la intimidad personal - tienen la categoria de fundamentales y, por ello, gozan de una protección reforzada frente a todo género de intromisiones ...

Does this mean "foregoing" here? I haven't seen this usage before.

Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 at issue; in the premises
4 in presence
Change log

Jan 20, 2016 16:08: Adrian MM. (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Robert Forstag Jan 15, 2016:
Agree with Phil and Robert also As Robert Carter writes, "under discussion," "in question" or perhaps "under consideration."

Hard to see what else the phrase could possibly mean....
neilmac Jan 15, 2016:
Agree ... with Phil and Robert.
Laura Kiernan (asker) Jan 15, 2016:
Thanks to both of you. I am just going on gut instinct here, so it will be good to see what others have to say as well.
philgoddard Jan 15, 2016:
Yes, I think it just means "these".
Robert Carter Jan 15, 2016:
That's certainly what it looks like to me, i.e. the rights under discussion/in question. I'd like to hear a couple of other opinions first though, as I haven't seen it before either.

Proposed translations

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at issue; in the premises

in the premises: as per the solecism on all non-smoking signs *on* the premises throughout the UK , but - as legal drafters and issuers of court orders will know - meaning 'in this case'.

Patents: in suit, only if there is a dispute.

Example sentence:

Law professor Garrett Epps has this essay online today at The Atlantic. ... \

Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : Did I? I'd forgotten that. "In the premises" is new to me but I have just looked it up and (of course) you're quite right. Very glad to know that!
18 mins
Thanks - and for reminding me of the term of 'solecism' on a previous ProZ question..
agree neilmac
21 mins
Thx - and possibly another wise choice.
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in presence

cognizance
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