Feb 25, 2015 10:16
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Spanish term
Langosta / Bogavante
Spanish to English
Other
Cooking / Culinary
shellfish
When both appear on a menu, how to differentiate?
MARISCOS Y FRUTOS DEL MAR
Cangrejo real 147 € / kg
Bogavante canadiense 42 € / unidad
Bogavante mediterráneo 200 € / kg
Langosta mediterránea 227 € / kg
Cigalas 52 € / kg
Would bogavante be clawed lobster and langosta simply lobster?
Thanks
MARISCOS Y FRUTOS DEL MAR
Cangrejo real 147 € / kg
Bogavante canadiense 42 € / unidad
Bogavante mediterráneo 200 € / kg
Langosta mediterránea 227 € / kg
Cigalas 52 € / kg
Would bogavante be clawed lobster and langosta simply lobster?
Thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | Spiny Lobster / Clawed Lobster | Alex Lago |
4 +1 | American (true/northern/Maine) lobster / European (common) lobster | Neil Ashby |
3 | Crayfish (crawfish) / Lobster | Tania Pires |
References
previously asked | Rachel Fell |
Proposed translations
+2
21 mins
Selected
Spiny Lobster / Clawed Lobster
In this cases I would use Spiny and Clawed, as just saying Lobster can apply to all of them
Peer comment(s):
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Charles Davis
: I think you'll have to in this case
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agree |
Candace Holt Ryan
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
31 mins
Crayfish (crawfish) / Lobster
From what I've seen in menus (Google search) they tend to call the Bogavante (I searched the Portuguese term Lavagante) Lobster, while the Langosta is a bit smaller.
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56 mins
American (true/northern/Maine) lobster / European (common) lobster
El bogavante (Homarus gammarus), o lubigante es un crustáceo decápodo marino, muy similar a la langosta, que puede alcanzar los sesenta centímetros de longitud. Es un pariente próximo de la langosta americana y de la cigala, y más lejanamente de la langosta.
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Homarus gammarus, known as the European lobster or common lobster, is a species of clawed lobster from the eastern Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea and parts of the Black Sea. It is closely related to the American lobster, H. americanus. It may grow to a length of 60 cm (24 in) and a mass of 6 kilograms (13 lb), and bears a conspicuous pair of claws.
and
La langosta americana, langosta del norte o langosta de Maine (Homarus americanus) es un crustáceo decápodo de la familia Nephropidae.
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The American lobster, Homarus americanus, is a species of lobster found on the Atlantic coast of North America, chiefly from Labrador to New Jersey. It is also known as true lobster, northern lobster, or Maine lobster.[3][4]
The above is simply taken from Wiki, but the World Register of Marine Species (WoRMS) is more definitive:
Rank Species
Parent Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus Weber, 1795
Sources basis of record Brunel, P., Bosse, L. & Lamarche, G. (1998). Catalogue of the marine invertebrates of the estuary and Gulf of St. Lawrence. Canadian Special Publication of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, 126. 405 p. (look up in IMIS) [details]
[show all]
Vernacular
Names
Language Name
English Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editornorthern lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editormaine lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorAmerican lobster [details]
French Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard américainUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard [details]
Norwegian Bokmål Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoramerikahummer [details]
Norwegian Nynorsk Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoramerikahummar [details]
Spanish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorbogavante americano
Rank Species
Parent Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus Weber, 1795
Synonymised
names Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorCancer gammarus Linnaeus, 1758 (basionym)
Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus vulgaris H. Milne Edwards, 1837 (primary synonym)
Sources original description Linnaeus, C. (1758). Systema Naturae per regna tria naturae, secundum classes, ordines, genera, species, cum characteribus, differentiis, synonymis, locis. Editio decima, reformata. Laurentius Salvius: Holmiae. ii, 824 pp., available online at http://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/no_cache/dms/load/toc/?IDDO... [details]
[show all]
Vernacular
Names
Language Name
Albanian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlangustaUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomariUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorgaforrja e madhe europiane [details]
Arabic Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorsaratan il bahr [details]
Berber languages Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editortaroucht [details]
Catalan Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorllangantUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorllamàntol [details]
Danish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Dutch Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorzeekreeftUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorNoordzeekreeftUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropese zeekreeft [details]
English Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropean lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorcommon lobster [details]
French Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard EuropéenUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard [details]
Galician Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlumbrigante [details]
German Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropäischer hummer [details]
Italian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlupo di mareUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlupicanteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorelefante di mareUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorastice [details]
Ligurian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorleguban [details]
Maltese Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorliunfant [details]
Modern Greek (1453-) Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorΑστακοκαραβίδαUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorastakós [details]
Norwegian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Norwegian Bokmål Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Norwegian Nynorsk Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummar [details]
Portuguese Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editornaveganteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlavaganteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlabugante [details]
Russian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoromar [details]
Spanish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomarUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorbogavanteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorabacanto [details]
Swedish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Turkish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorstacozUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoristakoz [details]
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:18:12 GMT)
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PS, sorry it comes out as quite illegible here, but if you visit the "marinespecies" links you'll get a better picture of the officially accepted names for these beasts.
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:34:47 GMT)
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On second thoughts, I think this incorrect.....
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:39:39 GMT)
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You have a real headache here because you have to provide names for three different dinners!
Maybe European lobster, American lobster and spiny lobster (which is not directly related to the lobster, but takes its name!) and this is all complicated by information such as:
Lobster - FoodUniversity.com
www.fooduniversity.com/ foodu/ seafood_c/ resources/ shellfish/ Lobster/ Lobster.html - Proxy - Highlight
The Mediterranean lobster or Spiny lobster is often called Rock lobster, crawfish or Langoustine with itsThe North Atlantic clawed lobster tends to have a sweeter taste than that of the Spiny lobster.
>>
Homarus gammarus, known as the European lobster or common lobster, is a species of clawed lobster from the eastern Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea and parts of the Black Sea. It is closely related to the American lobster, H. americanus. It may grow to a length of 60 cm (24 in) and a mass of 6 kilograms (13 lb), and bears a conspicuous pair of claws.
and
La langosta americana, langosta del norte o langosta de Maine (Homarus americanus) es un crustáceo decápodo de la familia Nephropidae.
>>
The American lobster, Homarus americanus, is a species of lobster found on the Atlantic coast of North America, chiefly from Labrador to New Jersey. It is also known as true lobster, northern lobster, or Maine lobster.[3][4]
The above is simply taken from Wiki, but the World Register of Marine Species (WoRMS) is more definitive:
Rank Species
Parent Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus Weber, 1795
Sources basis of record Brunel, P., Bosse, L. & Lamarche, G. (1998). Catalogue of the marine invertebrates of the estuary and Gulf of St. Lawrence. Canadian Special Publication of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, 126. 405 p. (look up in IMIS) [details]
[show all]
Vernacular
Names
Language Name
English Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editornorthern lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editormaine lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorAmerican lobster [details]
French Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard américainUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard [details]
Norwegian Bokmål Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoramerikahummer [details]
Norwegian Nynorsk Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoramerikahummar [details]
Spanish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorbogavante americano
Rank Species
Parent Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus Weber, 1795
Synonymised
names Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorCancer gammarus Linnaeus, 1758 (basionym)
Checked: verified by a taxonomic editorHomarus vulgaris H. Milne Edwards, 1837 (primary synonym)
Sources original description Linnaeus, C. (1758). Systema Naturae per regna tria naturae, secundum classes, ordines, genera, species, cum characteribus, differentiis, synonymis, locis. Editio decima, reformata. Laurentius Salvius: Holmiae. ii, 824 pp., available online at http://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/no_cache/dms/load/toc/?IDDO... [details]
[show all]
Vernacular
Names
Language Name
Albanian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlangustaUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomariUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorgaforrja e madhe europiane [details]
Arabic Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorsaratan il bahr [details]
Berber languages Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editortaroucht [details]
Catalan Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorllangantUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorllamàntol [details]
Danish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Dutch Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorzeekreeftUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorNoordzeekreeftUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropese zeekreeft [details]
English Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropean lobsterUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorcommon lobster [details]
French Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard EuropéenUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomard [details]
Galician Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlumbrigante [details]
German Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorEuropäischer hummer [details]
Italian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlupo di mareUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlupicanteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorelefante di mareUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorastice [details]
Ligurian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorleguban [details]
Maltese Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorliunfant [details]
Modern Greek (1453-) Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorΑστακοκαραβίδαUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorastakós [details]
Norwegian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Norwegian Bokmål Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Norwegian Nynorsk Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummar [details]
Portuguese Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editornaveganteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlavaganteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorlabugante [details]
Russian Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoromar [details]
Spanish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhomarUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorbogavanteUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorabacanto [details]
Swedish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorhummer [details]
Turkish Unreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editorstacozUnreviewed: has not been verified by a taxonomic editoristakoz [details]
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:18:12 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
PS, sorry it comes out as quite illegible here, but if you visit the "marinespecies" links you'll get a better picture of the officially accepted names for these beasts.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:34:47 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
On second thoughts, I think this incorrect.....
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2015-02-25 11:39:39 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
You have a real headache here because you have to provide names for three different dinners!
Maybe European lobster, American lobster and spiny lobster (which is not directly related to the lobster, but takes its name!) and this is all complicated by information such as:
Lobster - FoodUniversity.com
www.fooduniversity.com/ foodu/ seafood_c/ resources/ shellfish/ Lobster/ Lobster.html - Proxy - Highlight
The Mediterranean lobster or Spiny lobster is often called Rock lobster, crawfish or Langoustine with itsThe North Atlantic clawed lobster tends to have a sweeter taste than that of the Spiny lobster.
Reference:
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=156134
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=107253
Peer comment(s):
agree |
EirTranslations
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Thanks Aqua, you've got the perfect name for this question!
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Reference comments
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