Nov 19, 2014 14:01
9 yrs ago
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German term
United Kingdom
For the Love of Language
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
extrovertierte Verweigerung
German to English
Art/Literary
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Art book/exhibition catalogue
This is from the blurb to an art book/exhibition catalogue on Dieter Roth. It is the section marked that is causing particular problems.
The contradictory nature of his extrovertedly turning away...? From what? Or what is he refusing?
Thanks for any thoughts...
Das selbst gewählte Domizil in Island und das damit verbundene, lebenslange Hin- und Herreisen zwischen Vulkaninsel, Europa, Übersee, und immer wieder Basel, bestimmten den Rhythmus seines Lebens ebenso wie seine Arbeit, seine sensible Masslosigkeit, **die ganze Widersprüchlichkeit seiner extrovertierten Verweigerung** und die Kühnheit, mit der er bewusst verderbliche Materialien einsetzte, experimentierfreudig Grenzen auslotete.
The contradictory nature of his extrovertedly turning away...? From what? Or what is he refusing?
Thanks for any thoughts...
Das selbst gewählte Domizil in Island und das damit verbundene, lebenslange Hin- und Herreisen zwischen Vulkaninsel, Europa, Übersee, und immer wieder Basel, bestimmten den Rhythmus seines Lebens ebenso wie seine Arbeit, seine sensible Masslosigkeit, **die ganze Widersprüchlichkeit seiner extrovertierten Verweigerung** und die Kühnheit, mit der er bewusst verderbliche Materialien einsetzte, experimentierfreudig Grenzen auslotete.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 2 +5 | flagrant non-conformism |
Cilian O'Tuama
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| 3 | extroverted withdrawal |
Anne Schulz
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| 3 | outspoken individualism |
Donald Jacobson
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| 3 | willful renunciation |
billcorno (X)
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| 3 | in-your-face rejection |
Horst Huber (X)
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| 3 | strident (shrill) defiance |
Michael Martin, MA
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Proposed translations
+5
29 mins
Cilian O'Tuama
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
Quality Translations since 1986
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English, German, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
72
Selected
flagrant non-conformism
p'raps
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Prob'ly.
15 mins
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| agree |
SuzukiBandit
1 hr
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| agree |
Lancashireman
: Roth prob'ly thought he had booked a ticket to 'Irland'. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irisches_Tagebuch
1 hr
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| agree |
mill2
3 hrs
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| agree |
Ramey Rieger (X)
: yup
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to Cilian, and to everyone else for your thoughts."
1 hr
extroverted withdrawal
or "extrovert non-compliance"
A contradiction, because extroversion is more likely to be associated with sociable, compliant behaviour.
A contradiction, because extroversion is more likely to be associated with sociable, compliant behaviour.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: a contradiction, as you say, I cannot make sense of it...
30 mins
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"Widersprüchlich", as requested by the source text (Roth refuses to be available or comply with social expectations, which is unusual for an extrovert character (blurb, as Rachel said – does not have to make sense ;-)
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2 hrs
Donald Jacobson
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Neuropsychiatrist(MD) German(MA)
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English, Russian to English, Swedish to English
outspoken individualism
.....
6 hrs
willful renunciation
Paradoxes and incongruity abound. This might fit...
7 hrs
in-your-face rejection
Another suggestion. Or maybe "rebellion"?
15 hrs
Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
:
98
strident (shrill) defiance
Extrovertiert in this context means that Dieter Roth is showing off - that's a necessary ingredient here and must come across in the translation. I think at least one other contribution has accomplished that. But at this point, I am not yet convinced by the solutions offered for "Verweigerung"...
Compare with sentence below:
"Although his strident defiance of the white establishment, his theatrical capacity for high life and his flaunting of the publicly declared "rules of the game" have all helped make him a hero to his people..."
http://books.google.com/books?id=Nt4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA...
Compare with sentence below:
"Although his strident defiance of the white establishment, his theatrical capacity for high life and his flaunting of the publicly declared "rules of the game" have all helped make him a hero to his people..."
http://books.google.com/books?id=Nt4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA...
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