Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

en minute

English translation:

notarial deed en minute

Added to glossary by Frances22
Sep 5, 2014 08:31
9 yrs ago
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French term

en minute

French to English Law/Patents Law (general) Testament
This appears in the paragraph of the will as follows

Tout exécuteur testamentaire pourra renoncer à sa charge ou démissionner par acte notarié en minute et sans autorisation de justice.

From the context I assume this to mean 'at any time', is this correct?

Many thanks,
References
fyi
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Sep 5, 2014 12:49: AllegroTrans changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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Discussion

Duncan Moncrieff Sep 5, 2014:
@asker Where was the will established? In France, in Quebec or elsewhere?This will determine how the term should be phrased in English.
Tony M Sep 5, 2014:
No! I think you'll find 'en minute' is nothing to do with time (it is the meaning of 'minute' more like 'the minutes of a meeting') and is about the fact that this 'act' is official and archived. Always a slightly tricky concept to get across, but I hope my comments will help you in your research. You often find it as e;g. 'au rang des minutes'.

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): acte notarié en minute
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notarial deed en minute

From http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/ :
notarial deed en minute = acte notarié en minute

"...
RÉCEPTION DES ACTES NOTARIÉS

34. Un acte notarié est reçu en minute ou en brevet.

2000, c. 44, a. 34.

35. L'acte en minute est celui que le notaire doit verser dans un greffe pour qu'il y soit conservé et qu'il en soit délivré des copies ou des extraits authentiques.

Les actes notariés en minute doivent être reçus et conservés sur tout support qui permet d'en assurer l'intégrité et qui est approuvé par règlement du Conseil d'administration. Ce support peut être différent selon qu'il s'agisse d'un projet d'acte ou d'un acte clos. Les inscriptions des actes doivent, au moment de la clôture de l'acte, être permanentes, sans lacune et être protégées contre les altérations.

L'acte de dépôt dressé par un notaire en vue de verser dans un greffe un document autre qu'un acte reçu en minute ou une copie d'un tel acte ne peut être reçu qu'en minute." from: https://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/legis/lois/lrq-c-n-3/derniere/l...

Also:
"Il existe deux sortes d'actes notariés, le plus connu et le plus fréquent est l'acte notarié en minute. Ces actes sont obligatoirement :
numérotés consécutivement : la mention du numéro de la minute apparaît à la fin de l'acte « Dont acte à (ville) sous le numéro XXX »
toujours conservés dans une chambre forte ou un coffre fort à l'épreuve du feu et de l'humidité : le notaire remet aux parties des copies qui sont, elles aussi, authentiques si elles sont certifiées conformes par le notaire et portent sa signature; la photocopie ne bénéficie évidemment pas de cette authenticité;
inscrits dans un répertoire et un index."
from: https://www.apnq.qc.ca/node/434
Peer comment(s):

agree Christine Bryant
1 hr
Merci Christine !
neutral AllegroTrans : I see no need to use part French, which in this case will not be understood// I don't think this would be comprehensible anywhere outside Quebec, and certainly not in UK
4 hrs
Unless its from Quebec where this appears to be the term that is used.// Agree, could be difficult to understand outside of Quebec, would be good if asker could clarify where the text is from and will it will be used.
agree Germaine : Similar clauses in wills that I have on file read: "...proceed with their replacement by notarial act en minute", "...appointment... take effect as of the signing of a notarial act en minute". Seems that notaries understand each other.
17 hrs
Thanks Germaine
neutral writeaway : no sour grapes but now that it's closed, I must say this is 100% Fr Canadian and found/used nowhere else.
8 days
neutral larserik : I came across this in a document from Kosova, that's how I landed here
2097 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Great, thank you, I see how it is not used in its literal sense now."
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34 mins

original notarial act/instrument

retained by the notary. Ie that's where it's filed, that's where it stays.

see Fr refs I provided separately (before I decided to answer......)

imo this isn't a deed.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Indeed, it's surely an 'instrument'...?
1 min
yes, pre-coffee here...... although act is certainly not 100% out of the question. see notarial acts here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_(document)
agree mchd
1 hr
agree AllegroTrans : instrument
3 hrs
neutral Germaine : I think the "en minute" makes a big difference as it points to the notary who is a jurist required under the law to maintain minutes and not to the American "public notary" (you and me), for example.
17 hrs
it's definitely a civil-law notary and not a notary public. and it's not a deed. 'en minute' may be used in Québec but it's not used (in English) here for 99% sure.
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39 mins

original

The original of an authentic act or judgement; it remains in the custody of the public officer or court which issued it. Top copy.

En minute: Original d'un acte rédigé par un officier public, ou d'un jugement conservé au greffe, et revêtu de la signature du président et du secrétaire-greffier (Termes juridiques, Dalloz)
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : is this any different to Writeaway's answer?
1 day 2 hrs
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1 day 1 hr

original filed copy/document

www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1040719/.../d438550dex10531.htm
Subject to applicable Law, Bank may, in its sole and absolute discretion, adjust ... “Bank Document Deliverables” means any and all agreements, instruments and ..... each being duly executed, endorsed, notarized where applicable and delivered .... (b) To Bank, if requested, the original filed copy, or a copy certified as true, ...

heobamafile.com/_eligibility/BirthCertificateII.htm
27 Apr 2011 - At this link, we present two different means by which the PDF ...... state to provide access to the original, filed copy of Obama's birth certificate, ...

www.companieshouse.gov.uk/about/gbhtml/gp6.shtml
The registrar may accept a replacement for a document previously delivered only if the original filed document: did not meet the requirements of proper delivery, ...



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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2014-09-06 10:04:15 GMT)
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Or, lodged and filed:

www.rmonline.com/rm4.htm
Many countries have some form of official registry where certain company documents are lodged and filed.
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Reference comments

19 mins
Reference:

fyi

Minute en droit français

La minute en droit français est l'original d'un acte authentique obligatoirement conservé par l'autorité qui le détient : greffe d'une juridiction dans le cas d'une décision de justice, notaire dans le cas d'un acte notarié.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_en_droit_français

La "minute" est le nom donné à l'original d'un document émanant d'une juridiction ou d'un officier public. Le mot vient de ce qu'à l'époque où les actes et, en particulier les jugements, étaient écrits à la plume. le rédacteur devait utiliser une écriture fine pour éviter les problèmes d'archivage. En principe seule la minute est signée par le juge et le greffier ou. s'agissant d'un acte notarié, par le notaire, par les parties et éventuellement par les témoins.
http://www.dictionnaire-juridique.com/definition/minute.php

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Note added at 22 mins (2014-09-05 08:53:30 GMT)
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Désigne aussi l'original d'un acte conservé chez le notaire (acte notarié).
http://droit-finances.commentcamarche.net/faq/4235-minute-de...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Tony M
14 mins
agree mchd
1 hr
agree AllegroTrans
4 hrs
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