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Feb 13, 2014 12:21
10 yrs ago
French term

point de repos

French to English Other Sports / Fitness / Recreation Climbing gear
La longe comporte en option un 3e point de repos

From a brochure about a connector for use when mountain climbing. You connect it to a rope to stop yourself from falling. I know a longe is a lanyard but what is a point de repos? From the picture it looks like a loop in the lanyard
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 resting point
4 anchor point
5 -1 attachment loop
References
French explanation

Discussion

Alison MacG Feb 24, 2014:
@bewley You are not the first to have asked this question.
ProZ response: You can upload an image to an image-hosting website and provide the URL / link to that image in KudoZ.
http://proz.uservoice.com/forums/37172-proz-com-ideas/sugges...
bewley (asker) Feb 23, 2014:
Is it possible to post images here? I agree with Daryo that it would be very useful at times
bewley (asker) Feb 23, 2014:
It does indeed look like the examples. I think "Extra short lanyard for resting" would be a good way of putting it. That seems to be the idea at least
Daryo Feb 23, 2014:
The "strange way of putting it" is due to something that is a quite frequent source of confusion. Experts in a given field find it expedient to use abbreviated expressions, and they all understand each other perfectly. When an "outsider" tries to understand the abbreviated term, without knowing what are the implied bits, it can lead to very "interesting" results.

BTW it would be helpful to have a picture of this contraption, to be really sure, instead of having educated guesses.
Alison MacG Feb 17, 2014:
Your text seems a strange way of putting it but I think Daryo has the right idea. Could you confirm whether the following examples and images are similar to yours?
Longe en forme d'Y pour s'assurer en via ferrata ... Anneau de fixation pour se vacher en cas de fatigue ou de bras tétanisés.
http://www.simond.com/fr/cat/Longes_Via_Ferrata/prd/Set_Vita...
Y-shaped lanyard for self-belay on via ferrata routes ... Loop for clipping yourself in if you get tired or your arms are pumped.
http://www.simond.com/en/cat/Via_Ferrata_lanyards/prd/Vitali...
Anneau de fixation pour se vacher court en cas de fatigue ou point de repos.
Loop for clipping yourself in case of pumped arms and when resting.

Both arms of the lanyard are elasticated to keep them tidy and manageable, and there is a third short lanyard for clipping in close ... Extra short lanyard for resting
http://www.urbanrock.com/scorpio-vertigo

See also this BMC document:
Some lanyards also have a short third arm, which allows you to rest on steep sections.
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/tech-skills-via-ferrata-equipment

Proposed translations

+2
1 hr

resting point

Declined
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Example sentence:

...the Petzl Croll will grip the rope at the new resting point, this repeated over and over again to ascend the rope.

At the opposite end of the beam set the BeamguardTM on the flange approximately 2 feet closer than its final resting point towards the first BeamguardTM. Attach the cable using the safety shackle and pin the safety shackle as before.

Reference:

http://www.angloaccess.co.uk/tree-care.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&ved=0CEAQFjADOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardianfall.com%2Fengineered-lifeline

Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway
43 mins
neutral Daryo : that kind "resting point" is temporary and moves with the climber; "un 3e point de repos en option" is a permanent feature of this lanyard
21 hrs
agree Sasa Kalcik
303 days
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5 hrs

anchor point

Declined
http://www.saf-t-climb.com/TriggerWorkflow.aspx? WorkflowModuleGUID=a3c3bf34-f500-45aa-a73f-13a246669a21&Alias=Saf-T-Climb&SB_ContentItemGuid=6ed44e40-8207-4ea3-ac84-e41065262b21&item=prod
" For maximum safety, before dismounting or remounting, the climber should be secured by a lanyard to a suitable anchor point."

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Note added at 1 day50 mins (2014-02-14 13:11:45 GMT)
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www.google.it/patents/US20020174521‎
"The lanyard is a length of flexible cable having an anchor and a free end. ... The free end has a free end attachment mechanism for removably attaching the free end to ... Also, the lanyard 14 is useful in scuba diving, sky diving, rock climbing, ..."

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_%28climbing%29#Attachment_to_the_anchor

Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : to a suitable anchor point// an "anchor point" is on the rock , not part of a lanyard//"an anchor end" = the end to be attached to an anchor (been there, came back in one piece, presumably knew what I was doing ...)
11 hrs
Not according to the above patent, though, of course, one does have anchor points on the rock, which are generally referred to as "protection".
agree Sasa Kalcik
6 days
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-1
23 hrs

attachment loop

Declined
this optional third attachment loop is part of the lanyard; its function is to allow resting (by connecting it either to an anchoring point or the climber) but the part itself is an attachment loop.

"...Some of the defective Scorpio and Absorbica Shock Absorbing Lanyards are missing a safety stitch on the attachment loop, which can cause the lanyard to disconnect from the climbing harness, posing a fall hazard to consumers. To date there have been no incidents or injuries reported in the United States and one fall injury reported in France. ..."
[http://unitedhoisting.com/2011/07/safety-lanyard-recalled/]

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Note added at 9 days (2014-02-23 10:55:22 GMT)
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"La longe comporte en option un 3e point de repos"
is an abbreviated form for:
"La longe comporte en option un 3e [point d'attache, permettant de s'amarrer à un] point de repos."

Strictly speaking "un point de repos" is external to the lanyard; the lanyard only links the climber to the "resting point" which is not part of the lanyard (you can't rest on thin air, the "resting point" must be on a climbing rope, or directly on some anchoring point).
Peer comment(s):
neutral B D Finch : "Attachment" yes, but not necessarily a loop, there can be various provisions for attachment fixed to a lanyard, including rings and carabiners.
1 hr
the part of the lanyard itself is a loop; carabiners (or some other devices) are often detachable, not necessarily a permanent feature of the whole contraption - according to Asker only a loop is visible on the picture.
disagree Sasa Kalcik : not loop
5 days
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Reference comments

43 mins
Reference:

French explanation

Repos : point d'assurage que l'on a utilisé pour se reposer avant de reprendre l'escalade.
http://www.promo-grimpe.com/html/lexique_grimpe.htm
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree philgoddard
47 mins
agree writeaway
1 hr
neutral Daryo : this an anchoring point drilled/made in the rock//in this case it's another type of "point de repos", a part of a lanyard.
22 hrs
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