Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
quantième
English translation:
part(ial) delivery / delivery group number
Added to glossary by
Tony M
Feb 6, 2014 08:22
10 yrs ago
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French term
quantième
French to English
Bus/Financial
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
This appears in a list of information to be provided for a pallet being delivered to a warehouse: code EAN, nom du magasin et quantième de la command. It appears to refer to it being marked as pallet 1/2 or 2/2.
Has anyone come across this before? What would the translation be?
Has anyone come across this before? What would the translation be?
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | how-many-th |
Tony M
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| 4 +3 | partial delivery / delivery group number |
Daryo
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| 5 | the date |
Jean-Claude Gouin
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| 4 | part delivery |
SafeTex
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Proposed translations
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how-many-th
To me, it's an odd usage, but I have encountered it once or twice.
Just as 'enième' means 'umpteen-th', so 'quantième' means 'how-many-th' (I just put those hyphens in to make it clearer!) Normally, it is used in administrative language to refer to dates — in FR we say « on est le combien aujourd'hui ? », hence I suppose the justification for using 'quantième' in more formal language.
However, here it is clearly referring to a quantity (indeed, one almost wonders if it is a spell-checker-compounded typo?) — so it's really 'how many'; there is no justification for the ordinal '-th' (= '-ième')
I assume you already knew that 1/2 means a half and hence 2/2 means a whole (of something that can also come in halves)?
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Note added at 34 minutes (2014-02-06 08:57:03 GMT)
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Sure enough, for certain typos on 'quantité', the MS Word FR spell-checker does indeed propose 'quantième' as a possible correction, all too easily accepted by a typist in a rush!
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Note added at 35 minutes (2014-02-06 08:58:10 GMT)
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I suppose there could also be an argument for the ordinal because the expected argument is a fraction — were it not a half, it might have been a fourth, for example...
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Note added at 1 heure (2014-02-06 09:41:31 GMT)
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I'll leave this answer up for the general discussion — but of course Daryo has got the proper answer!
Just as 'enième' means 'umpteen-th', so 'quantième' means 'how-many-th' (I just put those hyphens in to make it clearer!) Normally, it is used in administrative language to refer to dates — in FR we say « on est le combien aujourd'hui ? », hence I suppose the justification for using 'quantième' in more formal language.
However, here it is clearly referring to a quantity (indeed, one almost wonders if it is a spell-checker-compounded typo?) — so it's really 'how many'; there is no justification for the ordinal '-th' (= '-ième')
I assume you already knew that 1/2 means a half and hence 2/2 means a whole (of something that can also come in halves)?
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Note added at 34 minutes (2014-02-06 08:57:03 GMT)
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Sure enough, for certain typos on 'quantité', the MS Word FR spell-checker does indeed propose 'quantième' as a possible correction, all too easily accepted by a typist in a rush!
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Note added at 35 minutes (2014-02-06 08:58:10 GMT)
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I suppose there could also be an argument for the ordinal because the expected argument is a fraction — were it not a half, it might have been a fourth, for example...
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Note added at 1 heure (2014-02-06 09:41:31 GMT)
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I'll leave this answer up for the general discussion — but of course Daryo has got the proper answer!
Peer comment(s):
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Didier Fourcot
: I understand "number inside a set", did not know this administrative term
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Merci, Didier ! And thank you for your 'proper' explanation, rather than my 'homespun' version (which I hope, however, made people laugh!)
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patrickfor
: yes it's the number inside a sequence. 1/5 (1st of 5), 3/6 (3rd of six) . No specific reference to anything else. "quantieme" or "combien-tième" (fam.) is used to ask the day number in a month
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Merci, Patrick !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, I used "sequence number""
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1 hr
French term (edited):
quantième de la commande
partial delivery / delivery group number
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3282132
In case an order can't be delivered as a whole and needs to divided in several pallets, or several delivery dates, each partial delivery is given a number "le quantième de la commande"
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3282132
In case an order can't be delivered as a whole and needs to divided in several pallets, or several delivery dates, each partial delivery is given a number "le quantième de la commande"
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3282132
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Ah yes, of course that's it!
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Thanks!
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patrickfor
: Not necessarily partial delivery. It's only that the delivery need more than one pallet. Pallet 1/2 (one of two) Pallet n/x nth on a total of X
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each pallet is a "partial fulfilment" of the order. Thanks!
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Virginie Mair
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Thanks!
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part delivery
For me, a partial delivery means not all of the order is delivered wheras a part-delivery can be part 1 of 4, part 2 of 4 etc. up to part 4 (the whole delivery)
So I'm offering an alternative to 'partial delivery' but it is a fine point that not everyone might agree with
So I'm offering an alternative to 'partial delivery' but it is a fine point that not everyone might agree with
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the date
quantième de la commandE = the date of the order
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Note added at 1 jour9 heures (2014-02-07 18:00:05 GMT)
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The asker wrote: 'This appears in a list of information to be provided for a pallet being delivered to a warehouse: code EAN, nom du magasin et quantième de la command. It appears to refer to it being marked as pallet 1/2 or 2/2.'
The second sentence indicates that there are two pallets ... 1 and 2 ... 1/2 the first of 2 ... 2/2 ... the second of 2. On the pallets, there is a code, the store's name and THE DATE OF THE ORDER. It's simple to understand.
In the first sentence, 'command' should be 'commandE' ... a typo.
In the first sentence, we speak of a 'pallet' ... IMHO, it means that what is to be delivered consists of TWO pallets ... the first and the second.
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Note added at 1 jour9 heures (2014-02-07 18:04:09 GMT)
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Due to the lack of space, I have to send the following:
On the two pallets, there is the EAN code, the name of the store and 'THE DATE OF THE ORDER'. It's that simple.
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Note added at 1 jour9 heures (2014-02-07 18:00:05 GMT)
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The asker wrote: 'This appears in a list of information to be provided for a pallet being delivered to a warehouse: code EAN, nom du magasin et quantième de la command. It appears to refer to it being marked as pallet 1/2 or 2/2.'
The second sentence indicates that there are two pallets ... 1 and 2 ... 1/2 the first of 2 ... 2/2 ... the second of 2. On the pallets, there is a code, the store's name and THE DATE OF THE ORDER. It's simple to understand.
In the first sentence, 'command' should be 'commandE' ... a typo.
In the first sentence, we speak of a 'pallet' ... IMHO, it means that what is to be delivered consists of TWO pallets ... the first and the second.
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Note added at 1 jour9 heures (2014-02-07 18:04:09 GMT)
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Due to the lack of space, I have to send the following:
On the two pallets, there is the EAN code, the name of the store and 'THE DATE OF THE ORDER'. It's that simple.
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: how would that in this ST tally with pallet 1 of 2 and pallet 2 of 2?// it's a coding put on pallet - what is more likely to be relevant- the date of invoicing or the ordinal number of the pallet in a multi-pallet order delivery??
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Jane says, 'It appears to refer to it being marked as pallet 1/2 or 2/2.' Jane expresses HER opinion only. It has nothing to do with 'quantième'.
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Discussion
IMHO, the context is simple. See the remarks I added to my answer. Have a great day, Sir ...
Here the usual meaning of "quantième" simply doesn't make any sense, ("quantième" = "1 of 2" can't be a date) so you have to go back to the etymology of the word and try to make sense of it in the given context