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English term or phrase:

frame

English answer:

framework

Added to glossary by Jenni Lukac (X)
Apr 1, 2013 13:35
11 yrs ago
English term

frame

English Art/Literary Linguistics General
I am writing an essay on language and culture. Is "frame" the right word here? Or maybe "steel structure" is the more suitable word? :D

My ideas are very simple. Please don't laugh at me. :)

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Learning language is like a constructing a building, with grammar being its ***frame***, and vocabulary being the bricks and mortar. For beginner to intermediate learners, what they need to do is to lay a good foundation, and this foundation is basically grammar and vocabulary.
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Apr 7, 2013 07:46: Jenni Lukac (X) Created KOG entry

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framework

ccsenet.org/journal/index.../7604 - Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - de SC Chang - 2011 - In other words, grammar is a framework to describe languages. 2.1.2 Principles of grammar teaching. Looking at what principles can guide us in the teaching of ...
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Learning language is like a constructing a building, grammar being its framework, and vocabulary being the bricks and mortar. =========== Is this better?
Peer comment(s):

agree Catharine Cellier-Smart
13 mins
Cheers and thanks, Catherine.
agree Michele Bittencourt
20 mins
Thanks very much, Michele.
agree katsy
26 mins
Cheers and thanks, katsy.
agree Tony M
27 mins
Thanks, Tony. Have a good afternoon.
agree Peter Skipp : Actually, I don't see anything wrong with "frame" as proposed above, but this answer is tempting
32 mins
Thanks, Peter. Could do. Taking the "with" out of the sentence might help.
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skeleton

A supporting structure or framework, as of a building.
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structural frame

The problem with your building metaphor is that it is unclear what building method you are referring to. Pre-war housing was generally built with solid brick walls, which supported the weight of the floors and roof as well as lintels etc. Only larger buildings needed an additional structural frame and that was often steel. Modern housing often has a load-bearing inner leaf of load-bearing concrete blocks, or a timber or steel structural frame and a non-structural outer leaf of brick. The brick is now there for weather protection and as a decorative surface but not to support the weight of the floors and roof. One can use cladding instead, possibly brick slips. In either case, the idea of a structural framework being filled in with bricks and mortar doesn't really work.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2013-04-02 12:40:08 GMT)
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You are then adding to the confusion by adding the reference to a "foundation" as though it could include both the structural frame and the bricks and mortar. Foundations nowadays would generally be concrete, not brick. The Victorians often didn't bother with foundations at all, just using brick footings, but they were fussy about grammar and vocabulary.
Note from asker:
Thanks. I myself also noticed this logic problem. And also since I changed my mind regarding whether culture should be studied together with language, so actually I deleted this whole metaphor together with the "foundation" one.
Peer comment(s):

agree Yvonne Gallagher : points made are logical
2 days 20 hrs
Thanks gallagy
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